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Strongly recommend ad blocking on the network level with something like a pihole, one of the best tech related things I've ever done
It's true this is nice, but it's no replacement for a browser extension, and only does anything while you're at home.
Orion is a new WebKit-based browser for Mac
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Re: Orion is a new WebKit-based browser for Mac
#32What benefits does this give me over Safari or Firefox? Not really an Adblock or extension user. The websites I frequent don’t have invasive ads and the one’s that do get put into reader view, even if it means losing part of the content or weird picture placement. If you have invasive ads I’m not coming back.
I guess you're not the target consumer, so none. The main selling points are privacy ("like no other") and cross-platform extensions, which don't matter to you
Kagi is bootstrapped by a somewhat unknown founder presumably in Serbia or from Serbia. Serbia has not always been a friend of the West/US and the government can compel people to do things that are not privacy friendly. I mean no offense by this statement and I have spent time in Serbia. My ears do perk up when I hear Serbia/Balkans or Eastern Europe related to privacy.
Re: Orion is a new WebKit-based browser for Mac
#33The sales pitch for this browser is really well done. What is lacking is information about who made this, and why we should trust their claims. Seems important too me if privacy is the main selling feature.
The about section says: > Orion is created by [Vladimir Prelovac][0], a tech entrepreneur with a track record of executing ambitious ideas that go beyond conventional wisdom. Orion was created in 2019, is bootstrapped by the founder and is being built by a world-wide passionate team. > We are also building a privacy-respecting alternative to Google search, currently in private beta. > If you'd like to know more or ge…
I have nothing against that guy, but it'd be nice to have more than a promotional self-description. Does he have a good individual reputation (e.g like Raymond Hill)?
Re: Orion is a new WebKit-based browser for Mac
#34The one thing that is lacking from Safari is extensions. If this does what I believe then it will be my main browser. Safari adblocking sucks atm.
Strongly recommend ad blocking on the network level with something like a pihole, one of the best tech related things I've ever done
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#35Earlier quoted context omitted.
Strongly recommend ad blocking on the network level with something like a pihole, one of the best tech related things I've ever done
It's true this is nice, but it's no replacement for a browser extension, and only does anything while you're at home.
Re: Orion is a new WebKit-based browser for Mac
#36The sales pitch for this browser is really well done. What is lacking is information about who made this, and why we should trust their claims. Seems important too me if privacy is the main selling feature.
"Kagi - Better Web for our Children" Well... It's a pass from me. Anything claiming something is "think of the children" is at best facetious.
> Well... It's a pass from me. Anything claiming something is "think of the children" is at best facetious.
That's taking it too far. It's really good to "think of the children," it's just that we have to be mindful of when that's used as a smokescreen to distract from a particular policy's highly objectionable consequences. That kind of expression also has multiple senses (e.g. "children are vulnerable and must be protected" and "we should build a better future for our children to enjoy"). The people behind this browser may not have English as a first language, so they may not be able to precisely tailor their language to English very online sensibilities.
Re: Orion is a new WebKit-based browser for Mac
#37A comparison with Brave would be most welcome.
Pros: * Supports both Chrome and Firefox extensions, vs. Brave supporting Chrome only. * Not so much with the skeezy crypto emphasis. Cons: * Brave has a multi-year head start, and has worked all the kinks out. Sync works, etc. * This is Apple-only. Brave works on every major device. I won’t be leaving Brave anytime soon. But competition is a good thing, and this beta is worth keeping an eye on.
If you block ads without allowing the ability to donate a token you are effectively stealing from site owners and causing the rise of paywalls and other restrictions on the internet.
Re: Orion is a new WebKit-based browser for Mac
#38Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's true this is nice, but it's no replacement for a browser extension, and only does anything while you're at home.
Unless you’re also automating a VPN connection to your home network when you leave it, which can be very helpful if you’re running something like pihole
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#39The one thing that is lacking from Safari is extensions. If this does what I believe then it will be my main browser. Safari adblocking sucks atm.
Strongly recommend ad blocking on the network level with something like a pihole, one of the best tech related things I've ever done
Re: Orion is a new WebKit-based browser for Mac
#40It’s essentially a better Safari, but (and this is what makes it the ONLY alternative to Firefox) with tree style tabs.
Progress has been rapid and the interaction with the dev(s) has been great. I see a bright future ahead for this browser.