I don't see any mention of developer tools, but in case anyone working on this is here, that's something that would probably be interesting to the HN crowd. Since the home page has a screenshot of HN, I'm guessing devs are the target market.
Orion is a new WebKit-based browser for Mac
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Re: Orion is a new WebKit-based browser for Mac
#22The one thing that is lacking from Safari is extensions. If this does what I believe then it will be my main browser. Safari adblocking sucks atm.
I'm on Safari, with the occasional testing and account segregations with Chrome. The combination of AdGuard[1] (found via SetApp[2]) and NextDNS[3] works for me well on Safari. 1. https://adguard.com 2. https://setapp.com 3. https://nextdns.io
I use the AdGuard extension too, with a Raspberry Pi running AdGuard Home which in turn uses NextDNS. I highly recommend every part of this setup, it's maintenance free, extremely reliable and I can't remember the last time an ad or tracker got through it.
Re: Orion is a new WebKit-based browser for Mac
#23The one thing that is lacking from Safari is extensions. If this does what I believe then it will be my main browser. Safari adblocking sucks atm.
Strongly recommend ad blocking on the network level with something like a pihole, one of the best tech related things I've ever done
I've had pinhole straight up break real sites. Took me a bit to figure out it was pihole and not some browser extension.
Re: Orion is a new WebKit-based browser for Mac
#24I wonder what exactly has changed since the last time this was on Hacker News. There's a plethora of Webkit-derivatives to choose from, I don't see why I should choose the one that won't let me also install it on my other devices.
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#25I know if I was developing a browser, the solarwinds product that Russia hacked is where I'd turn for the name too :)
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#26What benefits does this give me over Safari or Firefox? Not really an Adblock or extension user. The websites I frequent don’t have invasive ads and the one’s that do get put into reader view, even if it means losing part of the content or weird picture placement. If you have invasive ads I’m not coming back.
I guess you're not the target consumer, so none. The main selling points are privacy ("like no other") and cross-platform extensions, which don't matter to you
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#27The sales pitch for this browser is really well done. What is lacking is information about who made this, and why we should trust their claims. Seems important too me if privacy is the main selling feature.
"Kagi - Better Web for our Children"
Well... It's a pass from me. Anything claiming something is "think of the children" is at best facetious.
Re: Orion is a new WebKit-based browser for Mac
#28A comparison with Brave would be most welcome.
Pros:
* Supports both Chrome and Firefox extensions, vs. Brave supporting Chrome only.
* Not so much with the skeezy crypto emphasis.
Cons:
* Brave has a multi-year head start, and has worked all the kinks out. Sync works, etc.
* This is Apple-only. Brave works on every major device.
I won’t be leaving Brave anytime soon. But competition is a good thing, and this beta is worth keeping an eye on.
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#29«Orion is a new WebKit-based browser for Mac» -- FTFY
+1... Title is misleading / clickbaity
Re: Orion is a new WebKit-based browser for Mac
#30Being able to use both chrome and firefox extensions and having an iOS and macOS app is wonderful :-)
Will those features transfer to iOS though? Last time I checked truly custom browsers are not allowed there and extensions could be easily interpreted as running downloaded third party code, which is also a common excuse for Apple to throw apps off the store.