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Re: Ask HN: People who cashed out early and stopped working: What is your life like?

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I'm far from retiring, but I always take a break between jobs. It used to be only 2 months, then last time it was 6 months. I'm very happy to be in tech because it allows us for that. I don't decide beforehand how much time I'm taking, instead I just reassess myself "am I still productive? Am I still enjoying doing nothing?" When the answer is no that's when I get back to work. I love DIY so I've used that time to re…

> Also I wonder if I'll still be able to do this when I'm in my 40s or 50s. My parents always taught me it gets tougher to find a job as you get older. Obviously someone that's good will always find, but I wonder in general how aging will apply to tech.

I work for 2-3 years and take anywhere from 6-18 months off in between jobs. I'm pushing 50 and it hasn't been a problem.

I hear the ageism claim all the time, but I've seen no evidence of it whatsoever. I have no problem finding a job when I put myself on the market, usually within a few weeks at most. Many of the people I work with are in their 40s and 50s. I've never heard or seen any age discrimination.

I occasionally run into people in their 50s who haven't learned anything new in decades, but they're always working. Sometimes they express fear that they won't be able to find a new job. In all these cases, it's warranted, but also deserved. Regardless of your age, if you're not keeping up with the technology trends, you don't belong in the game. You don't need to chase the latest flavor, but if you're a software engineer, you'd better keep up with at least some modern tech stacks. That applies regardless of age.

Re: Ask HN: People who cashed out early and stopped working: What is your life like?

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Well it started slow, and I spent my twenties working very hard, but by 30 I had a few million dollars and decided to take a few years off. I had never really traveled, so I spent most of the next few years living out of a suitcase and at one point hadn't been back to my home country for a couple of years.

I went from only having visited a few countries briefly to having seen quite a lot of around 70 countries. I did lots of mountaineering, skiing, diving, and tried my hand at quite a few other sports. I went to a bunch of tech conferences all over Europe and Asia, just for fun. I flew so much that I was in the air for over 2% of my total hours a couple of years.

After a few years of that I slowed down the travel some, and by luck I had just signed a year lease for a beautiful home overlooking the sea in a country I kept coming back to just a couple of months before the pandemic shut down air travel.

Since then I have been taking up the hands-on hobbies that I thought looked fun and just never had enough time/space/funds for when I was working. I had a daughter with my partner, and am incredibly glad for the joyous little being I'm starting to raise. I have even recently gotten back into doing some software engineering for fun.

About a decade ago I had an idea for something that felt too big to be what got me setup to pursue what I wanted early on. The project was too complex, too long-term, and there was too little existing ecosystem to tap into. In the intervening years the ecosystem has started to come together and I've managed to strike well enough to have my freedom elsewhere, so I'm looking at getting back to being a founder within a couple of years.

Re: Ask HN: People who cashed out early and stopped working: What is your life like?

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I'm far from retiring, but I always take a break between jobs. It used to be only 2 months, then last time it was 6 months. I'm very happy to be in tech because it allows us for that. I don't decide beforehand how much time I'm taking, instead I just reassess myself "am I still productive? Am I still enjoying doing nothing?" When the answer is no that's when I get back to work. I love DIY so I've used that time to re…

And HR depts are just fine with that? (taking 2-6 months off) I get the impression They prefer those who stay on the wheel, as they don't have to worry you will just decide you need to take a break from working again.

> And HR depts are just fine with that? (taking 2-6 months off)

Another myth I see spread all the time. HR departments don't care about this. If they ask, it's only because someone told them it's a thing to be concerned about, and they're parroting what they heard. Make something up if you really feel like you need to address it and are afraid to tell them to fuck off. It's a stupid question that doesn't come from any legitimate business concern. In my 30+ year career, I was asked about a brief gap between jobs only one time, and that was decades ago. If a place actually cares about this, it's a good sign that you should find a job somewhere better. If you're really concerned, just leave the dates off your resume entirely, or at least leave the months off. Who cares about this stuff?

Re: Ask HN: People who cashed out early and stopped working: What is your life like?

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I'm far from retiring, but I always take a break between jobs. It used to be only 2 months, then last time it was 6 months. I'm very happy to be in tech because it allows us for that. I don't decide beforehand how much time I'm taking, instead I just reassess myself "am I still productive? Am I still enjoying doing nothing?" When the answer is no that's when I get back to work. I love DIY so I've used that time to re…

the weekends are a pretty good picture of how we'd behave at retirement. Interesting, thanks for the insight. I've also heard that, your teenage hobbies are another source of where you might find your passion in retirement. What did you do for fun as a teenager, and how does that compare to what you do during your breaks?

Interesting to see this as I’ve never heard returning to adolescent interests being common but that’s exactly the path I followed after leaving tech. I tried getting into sound engineering because I loved recording with rented 4 track recorders and early software DAWs in my late teen years. It didn’t stick and I ended up going back further to when I found an old Honda Trail 70 in a barn when I was a kid and rode around absolutely everywhere in my local area just to explore.

I recently found the adventure riding community and built up a Husky 701 for multi-day (hopefully multi-week in the future) on/off road trips. It’s not unlike a small open source project but more physically active. I’m early 40s now and plan to explore on a bike into my 60s.

I also recently bought a ranch in Colorado. This isn’t from my childhood but turned out to hit all the right notes for me. Ranchin’ is almost impossible to make a profit at but I’ve met a bunch of people now who can’t stop doing it and I understand why. It’s a never ending stream of natural projects, big and small, that engage every part of you mentally and physically. Again here, not unlike a (larger) software project.

I went into tech because I thought I liked hacking, turns out I just like work, especially on systems you can iterate on every day and see improvement.

As for tech, I haven’t written a line of code in years and rarely use the internet except for practical things like maps and basic information. I still browse HN occasionally. Not sure why as there’s not a lot of content relevant to my current interests. It still has a little of whatever I loved about tech in the 2000-2015 era, which seems entirely gone from the wider internet now.

Re: Ask HN: People who cashed out early and stopped working: What is your life like?

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What is early? What is stopping working? I semi-retired at 44, but I am still working as a contract programmer and bill for about 20-25 hours a week. I worked a ho-hum programming job for nearly 20 years (yes, just the one), feeling miserable for at least the last 3. There was no "cashing out", though when the company sold to private investors I got something like an extra 75% of a year of pay. It wasn't that money,…

Inspiring story, thanks for sharing. Any tips on finding "something part time & much more fulfilling"? Did you just wait for something to find you, did you actively search out opportunities..?

I've been using & contributing to open source for a long time. I had the good fortune to end up on the radar of the project lead for Adafruit's CircuitPython, and when he found out I was looking for something different, it was also the right time for them to bring someone new on board. Their embedded & creative teams were already all set up for someone who wanted to make a part time remote commitment.

So it feels like there was a big element of luck, but also I feel that having a history of open source work visible on github, as well as creating personal connections in the open source world, helped it happen for me.

There aren't a whole lot of Adafruits out there, where you're shipping new hardware products weekly, most of them with open source drivers.

Re: Ask HN: People who cashed out early and stopped working: What is your life like?

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I believe everyone has a different set of circumstances, and never the same path, but it's great to be able to see people writing under this topic about the paths they took, just to be able to know I'm sane.

I'm unmarried... spent most of my younger life driven to make money and buy a house. It's been the best decision for me to buy a house when I'm working because of the tax deductions. That being said I've always wanted to be a musician, and an independent thinker. Working for others served to pay bills, but also served to burn valuable years off of my life... Because I'm not married and have no kids, I'm able though to be a bit less cautious, and have taken time off of work in small cycles (3-6 months at a time).

I have always planned a point of retirement, but I'm not there because it's impossible to know how good my savings need to be, and how the economy will go into the future, and I don't want to have to go back to working, after years off, when I'm much older in a future where jobs may not be available to someone like me.

I have no shortage of things to do in retirement, but most of it depends on being well funded, and in today's world, financial, time without income, and investment risks are much scarier than it used to be. But the truth has always been the same - No risk, no reward.

Re: Ask HN: People who cashed out early and stopped working: What is your life like?

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post #117

At this point, I could retire, but I have no idea what to do with the rest of my life. I feel like I have achieved all I could (which is very wrong, but that's how it feels) I'm no longer young and I have family, so simply packing my bags and touring the world is out. Can't take my kids for a 1y world tour either, the school system doesn't allow it. Going on expeditions would saddle my wife with the full child care,…

What about picking up a hobby where long stretches of concentration aren't needed and there can be a slight social angle? I personally would love to have more time for solo board gaming or board gaming online? With board gaming the social interaction is on rails with the game, the same goes for joining a book club or more non-cognitively with solo or pair dancing. And then there is the meditative path.

* solo board gaming https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUqB2AKAexw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpyeWbbdssY

* paul schelnutt dancing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2Zbs56AKYs

* ecstatic dance https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lY41coxPKuY&t=70s

Re: Ask HN: People who cashed out early and stopped working: What is your life like?

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post #39

What is early? What is stopping working? I semi-retired at 44, but I am still working as a contract programmer and bill for about 20-25 hours a week. I worked a ho-hum programming job for nearly 20 years (yes, just the one), feeling miserable for at least the last 3. There was no "cashing out", though when the company sold to private investors I got something like an extra 75% of a year of pay. It wasn't that money,…

How does working on open-source gets you paid ? I am new and curious

Most of my work is contract work with Adafruit. Almost every week we put out new hardware and most of those get open source drivers and/or creative projects that appear on Github and the Adafruit Learning System. The sales of the hardware fund the development of the software (& the new hardware).

Re: Ask HN: People who cashed out early and stopped working: What is your life like?

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post #117

At this point, I could retire, but I have no idea what to do with the rest of my life. I feel like I have achieved all I could (which is very wrong, but that's how it feels) I'm no longer young and I have family, so simply packing my bags and touring the world is out. Can't take my kids for a 1y world tour either, the school system doesn't allow it. Going on expeditions would saddle my wife with the full child care,…

You can't take your kids out for a week or a month. But if you take your kids out of the country for a whole school year, what would stop you?
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