This is fair. I cannot discern any justifiable reason to arbitrarily exempt a subset of prisoners from general population.
New York City to Phase Out Its Gifted and Talented Program
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Re: New York City to Phase Out Its Gifted and Talented Program
#12Brought to you by the people who all parroted "stop Asian hate" for like 3 weeks last March until it fell off their social media feeds. Kindergarten does seem a bit early to be permanently binning children into "gifted" or "not" but I am so sick of seeing people unhappy with Asians doing well.
“I just don’t buy into the narrative that any one ethnic group owns admission to these schools.” - Richard Carranza, former NYC school chancellor The bigotry from certain "progressives" is just staggering.
It's a test. The test, as far as I know, doesn't include the question "are you asian".
Re: New York City to Phase Out Its Gifted and Talented Program
#13> But the highly selective and racially segregated program will be replaced for incoming students.
Wow, using a word such as segregation, which has connotations of 'by design' sure lays bare their hand.
Just to be clear, there is no segregation(of any kind) amongst the students in the program.
In fact, there is no segregation at all. There's just not equal representation of the makey-uppy USA racial classifications.
But why let facts and clarity rule over emotional clickbaity sub-headlines?
Re: New York City to Phase Out Its Gifted and Talented Program
#14Brought to you by the people who all parroted "stop Asian hate" for like 3 weeks last March until it fell off their social media feeds. Kindergarten does seem a bit early to be permanently binning children into "gifted" or "not" but I am so sick of seeing people unhappy with Asians doing well.
That's about as biased as you can get? It was clearly about providing for all. Nothing said about treating Asians and differently.
The current stats include a ridiculously large number of Asians, and the changes are racially motivated according to the proponents' own words.
It doesn't sound like the system was perfect, I'm all for reform that helps everyone. Hurting Asians to create equality isn't it.
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#15I dont think that one can judge if a kod is gifted or not at the age of 4, but stupid people dragging smart people down with "equality" is a big problem with current system. I was a part of a gifted program and I dont understand why there arent more of them.
So its ok to drag down smart kids with "You're not Asian in kindergarten" or some other bias? To provide better-prepared kindergarteners with more public money and better schools, for life, based on a kindergarten test, is what the objection is based on.
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#16Yes! Now they can fail all of the kids equally instead of possibly helping a small subset who did well on a test once.
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#17I am all for supportive programs for really smart kids. FWIW my kids go to NYC public schools. We did not go with gifted and talented because we didn't really like the structure of the program. If the city ends up providing REAL enrichment for gifted kids past 3rd grade it will be a net gain for everyone.
It is pretty ridiculous how pervasive test prep is for pre-school age kids to get them into the G&T program.
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#18I am generally quite liberal but I strongly disagree with he current strain of progressive education reform. There are inherent differences within the capabilities of students, we can detect these early, and we should use them to provide students with appropriate challenges. Our education system should provide avenues for top students to excel, ad hopefully these top students become the people who create businesses or invention that improve the world.
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#19Bad decision, went to these schools
More info please, how was your experience
Re: New York City to Phase Out Its Gifted and Talented Program
#20Totally based on my experiences and opinion, this is because our society has very little appetite for prioritizing education and children over economics.
In reality, we should have more programs like this and investing more resources in developing alternative, public paths for educating children. Public education itself is relatively young in human history. Invest in R&D.
But that money would need to come from coffers already being drained for the sake of short term profits.
Pay the teachers.