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Quickemu: Quickly create and run optimised Win-10,11/macOS/Linux on Linux

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Re: Quickemu: Quickly create and run optimised Win-10,11/macOS/Linux on Linux

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Post by my123 »

jeroenhd wrote: post #7
hdjjhhvvhga wrote: post #3

I'm not sure how it works now, but a few years ago it was illegal to use more than one copy of Windows in this way (provided that you already have a purchased copy). If you wanted to have two instances, you had to purchase a second copy. I'm not sure what the relevant terms are for macOS now apart from the fact that in the old days VMware had an artificial block you need to remove in order to run Mac OS X. It would b…

AFAIK you can use Windows unlicensed as long as you activate it after evaluation. You're right that you can only run one instance of a given Windows product code on a machine for long-time use, though. The last I heard about the macos situation is that virtualisation of macOS is allowed as long as you do it on Apple hardware that you have a license to run macOS on. You can run as many virtual machines on your mac as…

> You can run as many virtual machines on your mac as you want

No, the EULA says:

> (iii) to install, use and run up to two (2) additional copies or instances of the Apple Software within virtual operating system environments on each Mac Computer you own or control that is already running the Apple Software, for purposes of: (a) software development; (b) testing during software development; (c) using macOS Server; or (d) personal, non-commercial use.

Re: Quickemu: Quickly create and run optimised Win-10,11/macOS/Linux on Linux

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Post by jbaber »

alufers wrote: post #20

What I would really like to exist, is a VM image for Windows 10, without all the telemetry, updates and anti-virus software. I hate that when I need to test something on IE, my laptop's fans start spinning up, and the VM is unusable, because Microsoft decided its a good time to scan the whole disk and consume all the vCPUs allocated to the vm.

I think that's what https://reactos.org/ is supposed to be, but I haven't personally installed it.

Re: Quickemu: Quickly create and run optimised Win-10,11/macOS/Linux on Linux

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Post by tyingq »

OJFord wrote: post #13
sydthrowaway wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What is this?

I assume the `tr` is to avoid detection, there's a tiny bit more info here: https://www.nicksherlock.com/2021/06/installing-macos-12-mon... (grep for 'OSK') Seems people really avoid saying the value, ('don't be surprised it doesn't look like a random string') maybe there's some history of Apple requesting people cease & desist wherever they find it, I don't know.

It's easy enough to search for "isa-applemsc":

https://github.com/search?q=isa-applesmc&type=code

I'm guessing it's more of a philosophical stance rather than avoiding detection. Like "Apple isn't going to make me put the string 'dontsteal' in my repo".

Re: Quickemu: Quickly create and run optimised Win-10,11/macOS/Linux on Linux

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Post by gattilorenz »

jbaber wrote: post #22
alufers wrote: post #20

What I would really like to exist, is a VM image for Windows 10, without all the telemetry, updates and anti-virus software. I hate that when I need to test something on IE, my laptop's fans start spinning up, and the VM is unusable, because Microsoft decided its a good time to scan the whole disk and consume all the vCPUs allocated to the vm.

I think that's what https://reactos.org/ is supposed to be, but I haven't personally installed it.

It's not. ReactOS is a long-running project aiming at creating an open source OS that is fully Windows compatible so you can run Windows programs on it.

While it doesn't have telemetry and you can run it as a VM (arguably the better choice, given it's state), it is not Windows 10 by any stretch, and I guess it doesn't run the latest IE version (but I haven't tried it in ages)

Re: Quickemu: Quickly create and run optimised Win-10,11/macOS/Linux on Linux

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Post by amarshall »

hdjjhhvvhga wrote: post #4
implying wrote: post #2

Took a little while to find the magic words in there: https://github.com/wimpysworld/quickemu/blob/af26f41440d63a0...

I always wondered how is it stealing if you (1) own a copy and, (2) Apple effectively stopped charging money for macOS.

No one but Apple owns a copy of macOS. They own a license to use it according to the terms of that license.

Re: Quickemu: Quickly create and run optimised Win-10,11/macOS/Linux on Linux

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Post by andrewmackrodt »

If anyone tries running Photoshop under Windows using this and has good performance please tag me in a comment. I've migrated several times from Qemu, VirtualBox and settled on VMware player (for non commercial usage).

I found that to be the "best" performing, although still leaves a lot to be desired and having to open the application, manually sign kernel drivers and then reboot after every kernel upgrade is a little tiresome.

Re: Quickemu: Quickly create and run optimised Win-10,11/macOS/Linux on Linux

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Post by inickt »

andrewmackrodt wrote: post #26

If anyone tries running Photoshop under Windows using this and has good performance please tag me in a comment. I've migrated several times from Qemu, VirtualBox and settled on VMware player (for non commercial usage). I found that to be the "best" performing, although still leaves a lot to be desired and having to open the application, manually sign kernel drivers and then reboot after every kernel upgrade is a litt…

Are you passing in a second GPU to the VM using VFIO? Otherwise I don't believe graphics will be accelerated.

Re: Quickemu: Quickly create and run optimised Win-10,11/macOS/Linux on Linux

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Post by inickt »

ngcc_hk wrote: post #8

For legal argument and for macOS I wonder whether I can run this in bootcamp Ubuntu then … For windows alone I wonder as windows do allow no activation (other than …) and should it ok?

Legally, I think yes? You can definitely run macOS under ESXi when it is installed on a real Mac, so I can't imagine the difference between a type 1 and type 2 hypervisor making a difference.

Re: Quickemu: Quickly create and run optimised Win-10,11/macOS/Linux on Linux

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Post by c0npr »

alufers wrote: post #20

What I would really like to exist, is a VM image for Windows 10, without all the telemetry, updates and anti-virus software. I hate that when I need to test something on IE, my laptop's fans start spinning up, and the VM is unusable, because Microsoft decided its a good time to scan the whole disk and consume all the vCPUs allocated to the vm.

Read from other posts that a win10 ameliorated unofficial build exist.

Seems functional and depends on how much you trust the guys behind it. (or compile your own)

https://ameliorated.info/

Another option is to buy a ltsc win10 license (if you can find it cheap online)

Re: Quickemu: Quickly create and run optimised Win-10,11/macOS/Linux on Linux

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Post by andrewmackrodt »

inickt wrote: post #27
andrewmackrodt wrote: post #26

If anyone tries running Photoshop under Windows using this and has good performance please tag me in a comment. I've migrated several times from Qemu, VirtualBox and settled on VMware player (for non commercial usage). I found that to be the "best" performing, although still leaves a lot to be desired and having to open the application, manually sign kernel drivers and then reboot after every kernel upgrade is a litt…

Are you passing in a second GPU to the VM using VFIO? Otherwise I don't believe graphics will be accelerated.

Sadly no, my Ryzen doesn't have an iGPU and I only have the one dedicated GPU. VMware's software? acceleration is partially useful however, there are some bugs requiring disabling transparency in Windows but various Direct X programs run mostly acceptably. I find it the best performing of the 3 setups when using GPU passthrough is not available.
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