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Why you don't steal from a hacker.

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Re: Why you don't steal from a hacker.

#131
One problem I find with these tracking applications, at least for the average users, you actually have to remember that: (1) you have one installed and (2) your credentials.

It's kind of a problem, if you have all your other data stored using something like 1Password.

I know for sure I have a tracker installed on my laptop, but since it's running in "stealth" mode, I have no clue what it is or where to find it. I guess I am not hacky enough.

Re: Why you don't steal from a hacker.

#132

Glad the person got their Mac back, but why does this story and ones like it always end at the recovery of the property? Could we get an update on the punishment of the criminal? I'd like to know what kind of repercussions the criminals suffer--do they get prosecuted? I'm just curious if these software tracking systems have been used in court as evidence to convict any of these criminals.

I'm not sure if it's that easy for the victim to find that information. My family was robbed several years ago and while the police eventually reported that they caught the perps, that was all of the detail they left. Similarly, my girlfriend had credit cards stolen once and neither the police nor the credit card company gave any information except that they had found the people who stole the card. Perhaps this discr…

The police aren't going to report to you every step of the way, (why would they?), but that does not mean you can't find that info out. You could even talk to the police officers involved, they would be happy to tell you, if they know.

Re: Why you don't steal from a hacker.

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post #98
post #25

Why didn't a real hacker have a keylogger installed on his machine instead of just the webcam thing? You could have gotten the guys' password to his facebook

In my experience, hackers don't normally keylog themselves. That's the kind of thing they'd rather avoid — it could be especially disastrous if your computer were stolen like this.

Obviously I mean a remotely activated keylogger - the computer goes online and checks a website to see if it should start the keylogging

Re: Why you don't steal from a hacker.

#134

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Consumer routers will typically have port 22 firewalled for incoming trafic.

Ok, I'll rewrite: Why wouldn't he use his reverse SSH connection* to do that stuff? * Reverse SSH: if wget http://myserver.com/sshreverse ; then ssh -R 2900:localhost:22 User@myserver.com; fi Stick this in a file, chmod +x, then add an entry in cron to run it every hour or so. After that, you just need to create a file in your web server called "sshreverse" and you'll have an SSH tunnel to your laptop.

You forgot the part where you ensure that the ssh-key for user@myserver.com can only be used for this particular reverse-tunnel and not to, say, login to myserver.com...

Re: Why you don't steal from a hacker.

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post #67

Am I the only one who feels that it's wrong to put someone's personal information and picture on the internet just because he stole a laptop? Of course you get your personal information stolen as well, but in my opinion that doesn't justify spreading his image and name all over the internet. that kind of intrusion into privacy (of the thief) is a much bigger crime in my eyes than the loss of some laptop.

This being London and with their libel laws the author could indeed be setting himself up for trouble.

Re: Why you don't steal from a hacker.

#136

Earlier quoted context omitted.

yup that's right, at least me and most of the guys that work for Fork (the company I founded after Prey took off). however there's lots of contributors from Europe, the US and Asia.

Hey, just wanted to say thank you.

you're welcome Greg! really glad to know you got your laptop back. :)

Re: Why you don't steal from a hacker.

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post #52

I just installed Prey. Ignoring the OP's use of the word "Hacker", you don't have to pay them anything to get good value from the software. I set it up so if this file ever disappears http://iamnotaprogrammer.com/prey.html it starts sending me alert messages like the one below: Good news my friend, it seems we found it. Here's the report from your computer: ######################################################## # g…

6 users! wow.

Re: Why you don't steal from a hacker.

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post #52

I just installed Prey. Ignoring the OP's use of the word "Hacker", you don't have to pay them anything to get good value from the software. I set it up so if this file ever disappears http://iamnotaprogrammer.com/prey.html it starts sending me alert messages like the one below: Good news my friend, it seems we found it. Here's the report from your computer: ######################################################## # g…

6 users! wow.

A single terminal session counts as a user, probably has a few open, plus the system login etc.

Re: Why you don't steal from a hacker.

#139
post #65

Did Sam Odio's blog get hacked? Because I refuse to believe that the Sam whose comments I've been reading on HN would steal from someone. Sam how is what you're doing different from what Anonymous et al are doing? However irritating Jonathan's experiment is, it doesn't give you the right to impose you idea of morality on them.

You're in the wrong comment thread.

Re: Why you don't steal from a hacker.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's a value judgement. As a hacker you can't do everything . Prey is a polished product that you can trust to work. If you are into this sort of thing, certainly you can achieve more functionality and better security by rolling your own, but I don't consider it a prerequisite to hackerdom anymore than soldering your own motherboards. How often do you expect your laptop to be stolen anyway?

The thing is: rolling my own takes less time than installing Prey. Of course, it won't have bells and whistles, but it'll be much less limited.

If it doesn't work when you really need it though, you can't fix it.
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