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Post by notacoward »

CountDrewku wrote: post #710
notacoward wrote: post #703

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Full vaccination is not achievable That's called the fallacy of the excluded middle (sub-species "argument by demanding impossible perfection") and it doesn't negate my own point at all . No, 100% elimination isn't possible, but every reduction helps and literally saves lives. > The un-vaccinated aren't restricting your travel. Simply untrue. There are still countries that won't let me in because I'm from a country…

>That's called the fallacy of the excluded middle (sub-species "argument by demanding impossible perfection") and it doesn't negate my own point at all. No, 100% elimination isn't possible, but every reduction helps and literally saves lives. It entirely negates your point since it's predicated on the the fact that un-vaccinated will supposedly continue eating up hospital resources. There is no future where this will…

> it's predicated on the the fact that un-vaccinated will supposedly continue eating up hospital resources

No, it's predicated on the fact that they will continue allowing more of the virus to circulate and infect others (and also incubate variants). Don't pretend to mind-read. It's annoying and unpersuasive.

> those restrictions are coming from the governments of those countries

...which is perfectly valid and even their duty unless we assume that the virus is harmless. I'm clearly not the one who has trouble considering more than one possibility.

> it sounds like you have some major health anxiety > you also blamed

Ad hominem. We're done.

Re: Facebook Whistleblower Leaks Thousands of Pages of Incriminating Internal Docs

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Post by CountDrewku »

heartbreak wrote: post #719
CountDrewku wrote: post #574

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah you're right so you should have the same issue with obese people. Actually you should have MORE of a problem with them than un-vaccinated since they've been a consistent burden on the system for far longer. Getting pretty tired of the hypocritical and illogical dissonance displayed from people who should be smart enough to think the ENTIRE picture through on their own.

Really? Your response is, “What about fat people?” If we could dramatically reduce the negative impacts of obesity with a shot you better believe I’d want that mandated too.

Guess what? It's even easier. You don't even need a shot you can exercise and eat healthy. I want healthy eating and exercise mandated. Since we're all having fun with authoritarianism, problem solved right????

Why don't you go ahead and look up the top 10 causes of death worldwide and then let me know how many of those are partially or directly related to obesity.

The entire point of my comment is people with your stance are focusing on the un-vaccinated and turning them into some evil boogie-man that needs to be eradicated when it's completely silly if you zoom out and look at the big picture.

THEY AREN'T AFFECTING YOU. Please stop the hypocrisy. I'm so tired of it.

Re: Facebook Whistleblower Leaks Thousands of Pages of Incriminating Internal Docs

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Post by 1vuio0pswjnm7 »

chalst wrote: post #685
1vuio0pswjnm7 wrote: post #552

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"In response, Congress passed the Sherman Antitrust Act in 1890 which subsequently prevented the actions that Standard Oil had used to conslidate the market." This tech company employee (aka the "Facebook Whistleblower") is refusing to share the documents she stole with the FTC. Although she did share them with several attorneys general. It appears she does not support antitrust inquiries. Heavy consolidation of "soc…

> This tech company employee (aka the "Facebook Whistleblower") is refusing to share the documents she stole with the FTC. Source?

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/03/technology/whistle-blower...

https://www.wsj.com/amp/articles/facebook-whistleblower-fran...

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Post by [deleted] »

chalst wrote: post #685
1vuio0pswjnm7 wrote: post #552

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"In response, Congress passed the Sherman Antitrust Act in 1890 which subsequently prevented the actions that Standard Oil had used to conslidate the market." This tech company employee (aka the "Facebook Whistleblower") is refusing to share the documents she stole with the FTC. Although she did share them with several attorneys general. It appears she does not support antitrust inquiries. Heavy consolidation of "soc…

> This tech company employee (aka the "Facebook Whistleblower") is refusing to share the documents she stole with the FTC. Source?

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Post by eightysixfour »

munificent wrote: post #697
eightysixfour wrote: post #561

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So for a digital platform you are suggesting that after X users they allow no more sign-ups until someone churns out?

I don't think number of users is the metric that really matters. I care a lot more about market cap because money is what gives corporations greater leverage to do bad stuff.

What about companies with large market caps that are losing money?

Re: Facebook Whistleblower Leaks Thousands of Pages of Incriminating Internal Docs

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Post by CountDrewku »

notacoward wrote: post #721
CountDrewku wrote: post #710

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>That's called the fallacy of the excluded middle (sub-species "argument by demanding impossible perfection") and it doesn't negate my own point at all. No, 100% elimination isn't possible, but every reduction helps and literally saves lives. It entirely negates your point since it's predicated on the the fact that un-vaccinated will supposedly continue eating up hospital resources. There is no future where this will…

> it's predicated on the the fact that un-vaccinated will supposedly continue eating up hospital resources No, it's predicated on the fact that they will continue allowing more of the virus to circulate and infect others (and also incubate variants). Don't pretend to mind-read. It's annoying and unpersuasive. > those restrictions are coming from the governments of those countries ...which is perfectly valid and even…

>No, it's predicated on the fact that they will continue allowing more of the virus to circulate and infect others (and also incubate variants).

Cognitive dissonance. You admitted the vaccinations don't stop infections. Therefore, variants will continue on whether people are vaccinated or not. There's quite a bit of irony in you prattling on about the big bad un-vaccinated while simultaneously not believing the vaccine provides you enough protection to go out and be safe.

>Ad hominem. We're done.

No it's an objective observation based on your comments about being terrified of other people infecting you with a disease that has a lower likely hood of killing or harming you in any major way than driving in your car daily (on top of many other more deadly daily activities). I actually think you need to talk with someone about your issues. I'm not attacking you for it, but it's obvious your stance isn't based in reality.

Life is full of risk. COVID isn't an issue that ought to be worrying you at all if you've vaccinated yourself.

Re: Facebook Whistleblower Leaks Thousands of Pages of Incriminating Internal Docs

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Post by [deleted] »

CountDrewku wrote: post #726
notacoward wrote: post #721

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> it's predicated on the the fact that un-vaccinated will supposedly continue eating up hospital resources No, it's predicated on the fact that they will continue allowing more of the virus to circulate and infect others (and also incubate variants). Don't pretend to mind-read. It's annoying and unpersuasive. > those restrictions are coming from the governments of those countries ...which is perfectly valid and even…

>No, it's predicated on the fact that they will continue allowing more of the virus to circulate and infect others (and also incubate variants). Cognitive dissonance. You admitted the vaccinations don't stop infections. Therefore, variants will continue on whether people are vaccinated or not. There's quite a bit of irony in you prattling on about the big bad un-vaccinated while simultaneously not believing the vacci…

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Post by chalst »

1vuio0pswjnm7 wrote: post #723
chalst wrote: post #685

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> This tech company employee (aka the "Facebook Whistleblower") is refusing to share the documents she stole with the FTC. Source?

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/03/technology/whistle-blower... https://www.wsj.com/amp/articles/facebook-whistleblower-fran...

Thanks.

Re: Facebook Whistleblower Leaks Thousands of Pages of Incriminating Internal Docs

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Post by mike00632 »

philwelch wrote: post #716
mike00632 wrote: post #557

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Facebook Groups have been host to many organized acts of violence. The Kenosha shooting comes to mind as a recent example where the Group was reported to Facebook and made it through multiple layers of review before being allowed to persist. To say that such speech is protected under the First Amendment is too much of a stretch.

It hasn’t even been legally established that Kyle Rittenhouse did anything wrong. Legally, he is innocent until proven guilty, and he has a case for self-defense for every round he fired that night. To say that the First Amendment doesn’t protect the rights of people to organize and assemble in a public place where one of them is later forced to defend themselves is absurd. People don’t use Facebook to plan premedita…

Even if you were right that killing two people isn't "anything wrong", it's beside the point. This is about Facebook's role in the violence. The event was organized on Facebook.

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Post by mike00632 »

ashtonkem wrote: post #620
mike00632 wrote: post #557

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Facebook Groups have been host to many organized acts of violence. The Kenosha shooting comes to mind as a recent example where the Group was reported to Facebook and made it through multiple layers of review before being allowed to persist. To say that such speech is protected under the First Amendment is too much of a stretch.

Please point out where I argued that that was protected speech. I think you’ll find that you’ve made up my argument out of whole cloth, which is quite tiresome.

Facebook: willingly hosts groups that plan and enact violence.

You: It's a matter of free speech.

Me: Point out that people have been killed.

You: I didn't say it was free speech.

Like, what do you think people are mad at Facebook over if not all the people dying from the misinformation and violence coming from them?

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