Finland joins Sweden and Denmark in limiting Moderna Covid-19 vaccine
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Re: Finland joins Sweden and Denmark in limiting Moderna Covid-19 vaccine
#2> "A Nordic study involving Finland, Sweden, Norway and Denmark found that men under the age of 30 who received Moderna Spikevax had a slightly higher risk than others of developing myocarditis," he said.
I find it frustrating that we’re still not putting numbers on statements like this in news articles. How slight?
Re: Finland joins Sweden and Denmark in limiting Moderna Covid-19 vaccine
#3> "A Nordic study involving Finland, Sweden, Norway and Denmark found that men under the age of 30 who received Moderna Spikevax had a slightly higher risk than others of developing myocarditis," he said. I find it frustrating that we’re still not putting numbers on statements like this in news articles. How slight?
Yeah I hate that, is it something real or are my chances lower than being bitten to death by a dog?
Re: Finland joins Sweden and Denmark in limiting Moderna Covid-19 vaccine
#4> "A Nordic study involving Finland, Sweden, Norway and Denmark found that men under the age of 30 who received Moderna Spikevax had a slightly higher risk than others of developing myocarditis," he said. I find it frustrating that we’re still not putting numbers on statements like this in news articles. How slight?
I wonder if it's because it's a higher dose. Slightly better protection against covid and slightly higher risk of side effects.
Re: Finland joins Sweden and Denmark in limiting Moderna Covid-19 vaccine
#5Geez, as the real data behind the vaccine slowly drips out I'm happier and happier I didn't inject an experimental drug in me. Especially considering all the "studies" thus far have taken place during summer when covid isn't an issue anyways.
What we've learned since their release:
- the spike protein is toxic
- vaccine immunity is narrow, binding to only a few epitopes on the virus
- immunity wanes quickly
- IgA antibodies aren't produced by the vaccine, causing vaccinated to still suffer infection
- heart inflammation becoming more and more common
- the mrna accumulated literally all over the body, not just the muscle as we were initially told
- manufacturing of these vaccines are subject to frequent contamination
And that's just to name a few. Glad I wasn't dumb enough to take one for a disease that's not a risk to most healthy young people.
Re: Finland joins Sweden and Denmark in limiting Moderna Covid-19 vaccine
#6> "A Nordic study involving Finland, Sweden, Norway and Denmark found that men under the age of 30 who received Moderna Spikevax had a slightly higher risk than others of developing myocarditis," he said. I find it frustrating that we’re still not putting numbers on statements like this in news articles. How slight?
Does it matter? You may have noticed that you are not allowed to be against the vaccine.
What's the point then to even discuss any numbers? All of this should appearently be decided by experts, isn't that the general consensus?
Re: Finland joins Sweden and Denmark in limiting Moderna Covid-19 vaccine
#7> "A Nordic study involving Finland, Sweden, Norway and Denmark found that men under the age of 30 who received Moderna Spikevax had a slightly higher risk than others of developing myocarditis," he said. I find it frustrating that we’re still not putting numbers on statements like this in news articles. How slight?
2.7 per 100k [1] according to an Israeli study. Couldn’t find these details on the Scandinavian study. This article at least in text said you’re more at risk of getting it from Covid than the vaccine — I wish this context with numbers were always printed in these cases. The non-scientifically trained public isn’t taught or should be expected to know how to contextualize these things.
Re: Finland joins Sweden and Denmark in limiting Moderna Covid-19 vaccine
#8So, they are halting the Moderna vaccine due to myocarditis and recommending the Phizer shot for younger men.
Yet, Israel found the Phizer shot lead to myocarditis issues [0].
I wonder what the numbers are and what data decision makers are looking at.
[0] https://archive.is/3bZoH/ (NYTimes)
Re: Finland joins Sweden and Denmark in limiting Moderna Covid-19 vaccine
#9> "A Nordic study involving Finland, Sweden, Norway and Denmark found that men under the age of 30 who received Moderna Spikevax had a slightly higher risk than others of developing myocarditis," he said. I find it frustrating that we’re still not putting numbers on statements like this in news articles. How slight?
CDC's numbers are here, if you're curious: https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/acip/meetings/downloads/slides-...
Re: Finland joins Sweden and Denmark in limiting Moderna Covid-19 vaccine
#10> "A Nordic study involving Finland, Sweden, Norway and Denmark found that men under the age of 30 who received Moderna Spikevax had a slightly higher risk than others of developing myocarditis," he said. I find it frustrating that we’re still not putting numbers on statements like this in news articles. How slight?
Taken from https://yle.fi/uutiset/3-12132652 (sorry, in Finnish):
Spikevax: 5 cases out of about 49000
Comirnaty: 6 out of about 380000
I think these are numbers from Finland specifically and not the larger study.