Facebook shows even more fear (of Google+, etc.)
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Facebook shows even more fear (of Google+, etc.)
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Re: Facebook shows even more fear (of Google+, etc.)
#2Wow, that is evilness to new highs. First they dont allow google adsense on apps, then they ban 3rd party virtual currency, then they ban G+ ads on facebook, and now this. This company is going straight to technological hell. In any case, it is foolish of them to think that this will in any way harm the growth of g+.
If G+ proves to be a good platform alternative, we 'd rather quit the fb platform altogether and force users to migrate than put up with this stuff all the time. FB has managed to turn lots of developers against them.
Re: Facebook shows even more fear (of Google+, etc.)
#3Well, that is understandable due the network effects business model[1]: a platform must be proprietary—controlled by a single company—for its provider to capture value created through network growth
Of course, there is the alternative: sharing the market than conducting an expensive winner-take-all battle, but as the current market leader, it surely wasn't in Facebook's intereset.
[1] http://platformsandnetworks.blogspot.com/2011/07/business-mo...
Re: Facebook shows even more fear (of Google+, etc.)
#4Well, that is understandable due the network effects business model[1]: a platform must be proprietary—controlled by a single company—for its provider to capture value created through network growth Of course, there is the alternative: sharing the market than conducting an expensive winner-take-all battle , but as the current market leader, it surely wasn't in Facebook's intereset. [1] http://platformsandnetworks.blo…
I dont understand why facebook gets a green card from the blogosphere, while nobody of its competitors or any other top-10 website reaches anywhere near this sort of evilness. Myspace didnt ban facebook ads, google doesnt ban facebook ads, hi5 doesnt, the majority of social apps advertise other apps; why is it "understandable" for fb? That's not a good way to build "open" app ecosystem.
Re: Facebook shows even more fear (of Google+, etc.)
#5Wow, that is evilness to new highs. First they dont allow google adsense on apps, then they ban 3rd party virtual currency, then they ban G+ ads on facebook, and now this. This company is going straight to technological hell. In any case, it is foolish of them to think that this will in any way harm the growth of g+. If G+ proves to be a good platform alternative, we 'd rather quit the fb platform altogether and forc…
How is controlling what advertising appears on your site "evil"? I don't get all the hand-wringing over companies that want to build profitable platforms. Are users harmed when Facebook disallows Google+ ads on their site?
Re: Facebook shows even more fear (of Google+, etc.)
#6Wow, that is evilness to new highs. First they dont allow google adsense on apps, then they ban 3rd party virtual currency, then they ban G+ ads on facebook, and now this. This company is going straight to technological hell. In any case, it is foolish of them to think that this will in any way harm the growth of g+. If G+ proves to be a good platform alternative, we 'd rather quit the fb platform altogether and forc…
How is controlling what advertising appears on your site "evil"? I don't get all the hand-wringing over companies that want to build profitable platforms. Are users harmed when Facebook disallows Google+ ads on their site?
How is it not (for developers), when competing networks make less than half in revenue than adsense and are provably much less safe (the excuse they used for the ban). For your second question, users are harmed when they are disallowed from doing things they want to. The fact that they are the only ones in the world doing that makes it evil (to me).
You may think that kicking the other drivers out of the race is a valid way to win an F1 game, but that's evil.
Re: Facebook shows even more fear (of Google+, etc.)
#7Wow, that is evilness to new highs. First they dont allow google adsense on apps, then they ban 3rd party virtual currency, then they ban G+ ads on facebook, and now this. This company is going straight to technological hell. In any case, it is foolish of them to think that this will in any way harm the growth of g+. If G+ proves to be a good platform alternative, we 'd rather quit the fb platform altogether and forc…
How is controlling what advertising appears on your site "evil"? I don't get all the hand-wringing over companies that want to build profitable platforms. Are users harmed when Facebook disallows Google+ ads on their site?
I have a problem with not allowing integration. That requires no link. That would mean that if I play an mmorpg on Facebook and Google+, I can't use my same character.
Re: Facebook shows even more fear (of Google+, etc.)
#8Well, that is understandable due the network effects business model[1]: a platform must be proprietary—controlled by a single company—for its provider to capture value created through network growth Of course, there is the alternative: sharing the market than conducting an expensive winner-take-all battle , but as the current market leader, it surely wasn't in Facebook's intereset. [1] http://platformsandnetworks.blo…
I dont understand why facebook gets a green card from the blogosphere, while nobody of its competitors or any other top-10 website reaches anywhere near this sort of evilness. Myspace didnt ban facebook ads, google doesnt ban facebook ads, hi5 doesnt, the majority of social apps advertise other apps; why is it "understandable" for fb? That's not a good way to build "open" app ecosystem.
How is it not understandable? To say something is simply not understandable is to say you cannot even begin to conceive of why they would do such a thing.
Whether or not we agree with FB, I think just about everyone sees where they are coming from.
Re: Facebook shows even more fear (of Google+, etc.)
#9I think the implications are still unclear. It's hard to tell if they're specifically targeting apps that are "badge-arrific" and use Facebook to market themselves, if they're referring to canvas apps, or if this a wholesale attack on all apps that use Facebook data. For instance, I'm working on an application that will eventually integrate (hopefully) data from Facebook, Twitter, Google, etc., in a similar fashion as Summify. It is the power of combining all of this data that interests many users.
All that said, there is a shred of logic behind they're actions...Logic in a very self-serving way, however. I am certainly biased, but I can't see this helping anyone but Facebook!
I'll end with the first line of their platform policies: "Facebook Platform is an extension of Facebook, whose mission is to give people the power to share and make the world more open and connected."
Right...
Re: Facebook shows even more fear (of Google+, etc.)
#10Well, that is understandable due the network effects business model[1]: a platform must be proprietary—controlled by a single company—for its provider to capture value created through network growth Of course, there is the alternative: sharing the market than conducting an expensive winner-take-all battle , but as the current market leader, it surely wasn't in Facebook's intereset. [1] http://platformsandnetworks.blo…
I dont understand why facebook gets a green card from the blogosphere, while nobody of its competitors or any other top-10 website reaches anywhere near this sort of evilness. Myspace didnt ban facebook ads, google doesnt ban facebook ads, hi5 doesnt, the majority of social apps advertise other apps; why is it "understandable" for fb? That's not a good way to build "open" app ecosystem.
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