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Facebook is nearing a reputational point of no return

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Re: Facebook is nearing a reputational point of no return

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That's surprising, they have no intention of hiding that Insta is a FB app. It says Instagram by Facebook when you open it.

It was a very funny "no, no, no, see, this is a Facebook product that's sooooo integrated with our platform and totally isn't something you can spin off easily!!" moment.

Well, messaging is going to be interoperable between instagram, messenger, and whatsapp.

Re: Facebook is nearing a reputational point of no return

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I don't remember nor didn't use myspace, but how did that come to and end? We're there early tell tales like this one?

The collapse for Facebook would probably be very fast once a trigger point is reached, they're kind of all or nothing, they need large data amounts to have any quality to serve ads, if they have less advertisers and data, they won't be able to charge the same prides, it's would be a cascade or spiral moving pretty fast.

Of course, once it happens, fb might be replaced by something even worse, the cynic in me thinks.

Re: Facebook is nearing a reputational point of no return

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> And even worse: most of them don’t give a shit about the reputation of FB. They don't have to care. They just shouldn't be surprised if I refuse to hire them because I was able to find them on Facebook/Instagram. Likewise, if they worked for Facebook I won't hire them. They're tainted. LOL

Wow, you basically doing hate speech for FB engineers on a social site and calling FB bad. Pot calling kettle black?

There are no limits to my hypocrisy.

Re: Facebook is nearing a reputational point of no return

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I don't remember nor didn't use myspace, but how did that come to and end? We're there early tell tales like this one? The collapse for Facebook would probably be very fast once a trigger point is reached, they're kind of all or nothing, they need large data amounts to have any quality to serve ads, if they have less advertisers and data, they won't be able to charge the same prides, it's would be a cascade or spiral…

Regardless of what one may think of Tai Lopez, he did do an interview with Myspace Tom where he talks about how Myspace got killed by FB: https://youtube.com/watch?v=ZA4vPc5SqJ8

Re: Facebook is nearing a reputational point of no return

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Marco Rubio just proposed a bill to stop corporations from being too "woke"[1]. There are also numerous instances of Republican politicians complaining or proposing bills about things like athletes kneeling during the anthem, burning of the flag, or other forms of expressions they deem "un-American". That's not even mentioning the Republican obsession with controlling "obscenity" on TV and other public media. [1] htt…

Read it again, it doesn't stop them, it puts them on record. Not comparable to silencing speech of citizens. Choose a better whataboutism in your defense of censorship, not just Marco lol.

I'm not defending anything. I'm responding to your statement that Republicans don't want to censor speech.

> I haven't seen any calls from any Republicans to censor any speech.

They very clearly do! Even setting aside the Rubio bill, you did not respond to either the "you must be patriotic"[1][2] or the "obscenity"[3][4] type of censorship that Republicans love to pursue.

[1] https://www.tennessean.com/story/news/politics/2021/02/25/te...

[2] https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2021/02/24/tennessee-g...

[3] https://reason.com/2012/08/28/yes-the-gop-platform-is-for-vi...

[4] https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/exclusive-u-s-represen...

Re: Facebook is nearing a reputational point of no return

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This whole circus is about as contrived as it gets, complete with the "think of the children" gimmick. The timing, the theatrics, the manufactured celebrity of a middle manager at Facebook who is doing the "right" kind of whistleblowing that the establishment likes. Facebook's predatory business model isn't unique or new. This is about raw power to censor.

They Do Not Want to Weaken Facebook, Just Commandeer its Power to Censor: https://greenwald.substack.com/p/democrats-and-media-do-not-...

Re: Facebook is nearing a reputational point of no return

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> But ditching my FB account entirely means I'd lose access to dozens of people I wouldn't have a great way of contacting otherwise. That used to be a fear of mine, but after deleting my account I’ve found it to be a core feature. It forces me to be intentional with my relationships; if I want to stay in touch with someone I have to make the effort. Otherwise, the relationship is likely more parasocial than actively…

Being able to passively keep in touch with many of the thousands of people I've met in my life is incredibly valuable to me. It feels incredibly sad to just let those relationships die because you're focusing your energies on the people that are currently around you.

How do you keep in touch with them on Facebook? What makes your post reach them, if most don’t check often?

I want Facebook for this purpose but it feels like it’s really not a blog. At all.

Re: Facebook is nearing a reputational point of no return

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HN delusion about their own self-importance is strong on this one. There are millions of talented Engineers who'd die to work for Facebook, Google, Netflix. Top 0.1%ile of 8,000,000,000 is 8 Million. Most woke, liberal graduates were protected from competition from other countries due to their location advantage. Ironically these woke employees are demanding remote work, displaying their usual cluelessness about unin…

Very much missed the point with a motivated reading of the intent behind what I'm saying. Nicely done! My comment wasn't directed at 0.1% pile. It's directed at mid-tier, good-not-great CS programs that FB is both targeting in ways that other FAANGs don't, and also have put on heavy marketing programs at. Signal or noise, hard to say, but they wouldn't be doing it if the need didn't exist . What matters more is the s…

once again, you are over-estimating the powerful SJW Unioin.

A lot of talented libertarian, conservative people can't work at facebook because it's too woke.

May be a Sheryl Sandberg will make way for Peter Thiels...and it's a fantastic thing for FB.

At this point too many FBers have to walk on eggshells.

A clean cut of SJWs will make FB a better and more powerful company

Re: Facebook is nearing a reputational point of no return

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I'd hesitate to generalize AOL's fall into Facebook's future. AOL's core proposition was being better than the Internet (more curated, coherent, and faster). When the web and internet exploded in size and scale, AOL's value evaporated. The dumb mergers and other mistakes were window dressing on this landscape transformation. And for years (decades? still?) afterwards, people used AOL Instant Messager (AIM), because i…

We are in unknown territory with Facebook, but I have no doubt it will fall eventually. The laws of thermodynamics hold true for institutions as much as everything else—one day Facebook will lose to entropy and it will become a fraction of the size it is now.

Microsoft?
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