It's probably a good way to introduce users to new websites that they might find interesting.
Mozilla to put ads in Firefox address bar suggestions
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Re: Mozilla to put ads in Firefox address bar suggestions
#632Earlier quoted context omitted.
At first I had an immediate negative reaction to this. But then I thought, okay, they need money, ads in address bar isn't the worst thing in the world. But then then I thought: But only if they are clearly disclosed as ads! Instead we seem to have a combination of " traditional suggestions like browsing history and open tabs, as well as new suggestions from our partners" -- are the "paid placements" clearly designat…
I would love for them to go NPR style on ads. If you listen to an NPR radio station (at least here in my area), basically anyone can run a radio ad, but it has to be about 10 seconds max and it is delivered by the on-air personality. "Npr would like to thank Bob's Hot Dogs, Bobs hot dogs deliver an excellent dog at an excellent price, find out more at bobdogs.com" Replace the brand there with yours and that's what yo…
Yes, but unfortunately public radio isn't always as good about this anymore as one would wish or as they used to, either.
National "NPR" may be better. But our local NPR "affiliate" has whole shows that are really pay-to-play. :(
https://www.baltimoresun.com/citypaper/bcp-why-so-much-pr-wy...
Re: Mozilla to put ads in Firefox address bar suggestions
#633Earlier quoted context omitted.
Palemoon, the same guys who mock sandboxing and multiprocess browsing? No thanks.
Ah, the old, now-deleted (and much-refuted) reddit post [0], I assume? [0] https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?f=65&t=22270#p16867...
No, the things they post on their own forum!
https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=17442#p12769... https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=15168#p109681
Re: Mozilla to put ads in Firefox address bar suggestions
#634Earlier quoted context omitted.
I did not use the mobile version until after they redid the design. I dont really have a lot of complaints about it. I like the dark mode and the address bar at the bottom it has ad blocker. What all changed between those versions ?
Drastically reduced universe of extensions Poor design of tab history (chronological order) No more about:config Change in the text rendering engine causes some websites to be unreadable (esp. news, arstechnica, and reddit), accessibility out the window There are many more, but I don't mean to rehash because it's been a passionate discussion for many over the past year.
>No more about:config
So few realize the importance of this. Some say "well only in Android" or "use nightly". The plan is clearly to incrementally erode freedom to a final state of dysfunction under the guise of gaslit improvements and false switches. They actually argue that removing about:config was for our own good. Printing webpages to PDF is also something we're supposedly better without. But we shouldn't complain, for they've abandoned the crusty old obsolete concept of configurability for brave new ones. Pocket, guerilla advertising, binary over variety, cloudflare, dom.battery.enabled, privacy.resistFingerprinting.alwaysdisabled and an emoji level of privacy. Why design good software when they can design good users? They're not all bad though. At least they saved us all from the terrifying overwhelming burden of RSS, right?
They're attitude is that, yeah, the internet is becoming a roiling cloaca, which is accepted and inevitable, yes? So rather than resist and try to improve it, adapt and contribute to it's descent.
Re: Mozilla to put ads in Firefox address bar suggestions
#635At this point, I just feel bad. I feel like the high school coach having to sit down with my star player after they've made a bad personal choice. I was going to say I will pay a subscription for the best browsing experience you can offer, sans ads. But this is opt-out. And there's a donation option at https://donate.mozilla.org/ . As long as it's opt-out, that's fair enough to me.
The donation goes to Mozilla Foundation, not to its subsidiary Mozilla Corp, which actually develops Firefox. You're basically donating to activist blogging, not browser development.
Re: Mozilla to put ads in Firefox address bar suggestions
#636> You might notice a message inviting you to enable these new suggestions the next time you install or update Firefox. So its opt-in, what is the issue?
A friend had this enabled by default with no user interaction.
Re: Mozilla to put ads in Firefox address bar suggestions
#637Earlier quoted context omitted.
Vivaldi is not open source so that's an immediate "no" from me. I'm fine with using closed source tools from time to time, but a web browser is just too important and intertwined in my life to trust a closed source offering. In a perfect world we'd have nothing but fully open source software funded by support contracts and commercial interest in offering superior software, but the world isn't perfect and so we have t…
Vivaldi does keep their source out in the open for inspection, it's just not licensed so that it'd be forkable.
Not all of it.
> Of the three layers, only the UI layer is closed-source. This means that roughly 92% of the browser’s code is open-source coming from Chromium, 3% is open-source coming from us and only 5% is our UI closed-source code.
Re: Mozilla to put ads in Firefox address bar suggestions
#638Earlier quoted context omitted.
Try just installing base Brave - "Sponsored" backgrounds (often crypto ads or credit cards!) - "Cards" with more weird Crypto ads! - Brave "news" - Brave "rewards" Yes I can turn all that of, and I have, but hard to recommend to normal users that dont spend 10min turning all the shit off. They also did some weird link shit a while back.
Not my favorite browser and since I only use it on iOS my response may be a bit biased: - Sponsored Backgrounds: just random places of the world like tropical beaches, Buddhist temples or mountains. - Cards? Nothing at all. - Rewards and news are under the settings menu and seem to be off. Maybe Apple's App Store conditions prevent Brave to do a lot of its crypto stuff. On Android, Linux or Windows I'm a happy user o…
> - Sponsored Backgrounds: just random places of the world like tropical beaches, Buddhist temples or mountains.
No, these are just random backgrounds. At some point I started seeing backgrounds advertising Crocs and stuff like that, at which point I discovered the Sponsored backgrounds option and turned that off, leaving me back with random pics of scenery
Re: Mozilla to put ads in Firefox address bar suggestions
#639Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm one of those five, and I'm not switching. Chromium is tainted, Brave is outright corrupt, and IceCat is seriously unpractical (they don't even build Windows binaries, because ideology beats practicality for them). Do I hate the current exec team? Fuck yes. Do I have any serious alternative? Effectively, no. Am I a hostage? Sadly, a bit. I hope people with the power to influence this state of thing will, sooner or…
> Do I have any serious alternative? Vivaldi? I'm using Firefox myself and have been using it almost exclusively since it was named Firebird back in the day, but I have considered Vivaldi as an alternative at one point.
Personally, a proprietary browser really rubs me the wrong way
Re: Mozilla to put ads in Firefox address bar suggestions
#640Earlier quoted context omitted.
I was under the impression that Brave was a more privacy-friendly variant of Blink/Chromium?
If you're looking for a privacy friendly fork of Chromium, the only option that's worth considering is Ungoogled Chromium on Desktop and Bromite on Android. https://github.com/Eloston/ungoogled-chromium https://github.com/bromite/bromite Brave has crypto ads and a lot of other unnecessary stuff built in. They've also made questionable decisions in the past, like inserting referral codes in links. If anything, Brave i…
Unnecessary like a native adblocker that won't get fucked over by Manifest v3, tracker blocking, anti-fingerprinting tech and defaulting to privacy friendly search engines?