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Re: Mozilla to put ads in Firefox address bar suggestions

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As someone who has used Firefox since v0.* I really, really, really dislike the language they have used lately. > relevant suggestions from our trusted partners The suggestions are not relevant to, and the partners not trusted by, me.

Yes I share the same sentiment.

This “Privacy First Data Sharing Platform” for example

https://blog.mozilla.org/en/mozilla/take-control-over-your-d...

Re: Mozilla to put ads in Firefox address bar suggestions

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> Why not just tell it like it is. Indeed. Mozilla should be honest. That's what builds trust. We all know they need money, so if this gives them money to improve FF, fine by me. But they need to quit the marketing bullshit-speak.

They need money to improve FF so they will get it by fucking up FF? Sounds counterproductive to me.

It is but it also happens often enough in business that you have to wonder what it is that drives it?

Is it some business school process or management training BS? It usually only happens when "trained" business people get involved that this sort of BS happens.

Re: Mozilla to put ads in Firefox address bar suggestions

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Firefox doesn’t need 400 million per year to develop Mozilla has a lot of no value initiatives activities that they want to fund

Exactly that. If they got rid of their hobbies then this sort of scam wouldn't be necessary. Yes, it's a scam: bait and switch.

You'd think from the messaging that they don't have nearly the funding today that they had 5 years ago, when in reality their funding has grown by ~50% during that time...

Re: Mozilla to put ads in Firefox address bar suggestions

#494

Can someone please just offer an open source browser that I can pay towards somehow? IMO adtech is the root of all that’s wrong with the modern internet. It gives companies 2 masters: advertisers and users. Guess who’s prioritized when there’s a conflict between the needs of the two? Whoever’s paying the bills, of course.

There's qutebrowser and you can donate directly to the developer but I'm not sure if you'd be comfortable using it. The major downside is that web extensions (addons) don't work in qutebrowser.

> but I'm not sure if you'd be comfortable

Oh I like this. It's subtle in a way that flies under the radar but still blesses someone's little heart effectively.

On a side note: I love qutebrowser, even as someone who doesn't prefer Vim or Vim keybindings in things. I like it because it is slim up top, and does what you tell it to and not a stitch more. If it got paywalled tomorrow, but everything else remained the same and open, I could see paying 10 bucks a month for it.

Re: Mozilla to put ads in Firefox address bar suggestions

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Not OP but I've avoided Brave from the beginning because of its reliance on an ad-fueled crypto scam to generate revenue. If you're trying to avoid Mozilla's new ad-based revenue scheme, moving to a browser that is wholly funded by tracking your browsing and showing you ads while pretending to "pay" you with cryptocurrency that they never actually pay out, seems like a step backwards.

Mozilla is woke. It's a failing company and a failing browser.

What exactly do you think this adds to the discussion?

Re: Mozilla to put ads in Firefox address bar suggestions

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> Why not just tell it like it is. Indeed. Mozilla should be honest. That's what builds trust. We all know they need money, so if this gives them money to improve FF, fine by me. But they need to quit the marketing bullshit-speak.

They need money to improve FF so they will get it by fucking up FF? Sounds counterproductive to me.

To be fair, this issue is also reflected with the mobile upgrade that wiped most of the functionality, extension integration, and good will.

Whomever they have hired to (1) perform UX research and (2) make executive decisions aren't performing, IMHO.

Re: Mozilla to put ads in Firefox address bar suggestions

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Why is a browser expensive ? There are many great and big open source projects out there that are maintained and developed mainly by volunteers. Why can't Firefox be like this?

Building a shell around Chromium or Webkit isn't very expensive. Maintaining an independent, high-quality browser engine so that the design and implementation of the Web isn't up to a Google/Apple duopoly is incredibly expensive: https://robert.ocallahan.org/2017/12/maintaining-independent... (4 years old, but the situation I describe hasn't changed, except that Microsoft has switched to Chromium so Mozilla's engine…

>isn't up to a Google/Apple duopoly

Remember the W3C DRM standard and how Firefox implemented it?

Re: Mozilla to put ads in Firefox address bar suggestions

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> We need funding Yeah, I guess Baker needs a raise.

Counterpoint, I’d rather NGOs and benevolent societies be attractive for world-class leaders, rather than be the constant underdog. Of course those CEOs have to avoid implementing classic business schemes.

It's ironic that the CEO is allowing ads in the search bar then.

Re: Mozilla to put ads in Firefox address bar suggestions

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Google and Microsoft did much worse and got away with it

Microsoft maybe, they seem to be the tech bubble darling right now. Google is officially "The Evil(tm)" right now.

Says who? Seems like neo-EEE with their current porfolio of GitHub, Copilot, Codespaces, Sponsors, NPM, Azure, VS Code, and WSL.
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