I would certainty pay for a decent browser that doesn't sell out my information to advertisers - just like I do for the email service and the office suite and other pieces of software. I would ditch firefox over this if I hadn't done this already a while ago.
Mozilla to put ads in Firefox address bar suggestions
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Re: Mozilla to put ads in Firefox address bar suggestions
#392Earlier quoted context omitted.
Outsider here: whats wrong with brave? I haven’t touched it but have no reason to distrust it, happy for you to change that for me though
Try just installing base Brave - "Sponsored" backgrounds (often crypto ads or credit cards!) - "Cards" with more weird Crypto ads! - Brave "news" - Brave "rewards" Yes I can turn all that of, and I have, but hard to recommend to normal users that dont spend 10min turning all the shit off. They also did some weird link shit a while back.
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Re: Mozilla to put ads in Firefox address bar suggestions
#393Meh, the feature is easily deactivable, the settings are clear and extensive. As far as ads go, it's one of the best implementations. Firefox still has no alternative in the privacy / user-centric space (don't mention Brave, I'm gonna get mad). Mozilla has done a lot for the web, I can give them some slack for exploring different revenue models. Still, I'm going to keep on eye for this kind of practices in the future…
> Firefox still has no alternative in the privacy / user-centric space (don't mention Brave, I'm gonna get mad). Vivaldi perhaps https://vivaldi.com/ ? It is still a chrome derivative, but it feel less shady and less spyware than Brave. And it's pretty good and configurable. Firefox remain my first and main browser tho. I never ever used "proper" chrome, not even one day.
Vivaldi is not open source so that's an immediate "no" from me. I'm fine with using closed source tools from time to time, but a web browser is just too important and intertwined in my life to trust a closed source offering.
In a perfect world we'd have nothing but fully open source software funded by support contracts and commercial interest in offering superior software, but the world isn't perfect and so we have to compromise sometimes. But the browser is one place I draw the line.
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#394Earlier quoted context omitted.
You also have Safari (and GNOME Web on Linux) using the WebKit engine, developed by Apple as an alternative... But that's not available on Android or Windows (the WebKit port exists there, but no good UI frontend as far I know)... which are the two big platforms. (because Apple doesn't care enough about those I guess?)
Wasn't Chrome originally a fork of WebKit when G and A are still buddy buddy?
Yes it was. WebKit and Blink then diverged massively after the fork.
Re: Mozilla to put ads in Firefox address bar suggestions
#395As someone who has used Firefox since v0.* I really, really, really dislike the language they have used lately. > relevant suggestions from our trusted partners The suggestions are not relevant to, and the partners not trusted by, me.
Ads would be cheeky, but I would welcome any efforts to get into the search space through search suggestions, akin to what Apple is doing in Safari with Siri Suggested Websites. Whether those are provided by Apple or Google I don't know, but they do open a window for Apple (and Mozilla) to slowly develop search capabilities. I've no idea whether that's either Apple or Mozilla's end game, but it would be a promising development if it were so.
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#396Fuck no.
I'm sure this will be able to be disabled in about:config but seriously.
From Mozilla:
Principle 4
Individuals’ security and privacy on the internet are fundamental and must not be treated as optional.
Principle 5
Individuals must have the ability to shape the internet and their own experiences on it.
Re: Mozilla to put ads in Firefox address bar suggestions
#397Earlier quoted context omitted.
A fork from firefox, stripping it regularly of the add-tech, updating only from its own trusted source. Basically a open source project were the downstream is considered hostile.
That's unsustainable. It's what some projects already try to do with Chromium, and it just doesn't work: every time Google steers a bit more towards evil, the downstream burden increases significantly, and sooner or later the bad patches creep in anyway. There is an institutional problem at Mozilla, we should focus on fixing that rather than trying to come up with even more complex sticking plasters.
Whats needed is a rebirth, basically the Mozilla team quits, creates a new mozilla inc and leaves the old one behind to go full chrome appocalypso.
Basically what nature does when the elder generation acquires to many parasites and dna damages, spawn a new generation and die, taking most of the parasites with them.
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#398Earlier quoted context omitted.
Firefox doesn’t need 400 million per year to develop Mozilla has a lot of no value initiatives activities that they want to fund
Exactly that. If they got rid of their hobbies then this sort of scam wouldn't be necessary. Yes, it's a scam: bait and switch.
Remember Mozilla is ultimately a non profit and must spend a healthy percentage of their income every year. Mozilla is just representing the collective self interest of those it employs. People wanting to keep their cushy job.
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#399Earlier quoted context omitted.
Wasn't there some google cookie in firefox that couldn't be deleted at some point, related to safe browsing? Then when people kept complaining they just hid it from the UI? I honestly don't know what the situation is now though.
Yes, Google sends a cookie in the responses from its Safe Browsing service. As of Firefox 27 (released in February 2014), Firefox has sandboxed the Google Safe Browsing cookie in a separate cookie jar, isolated from normal web browsing. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=368255#c61
Giving Google the power to decide what users are and are not allowed to download is another thing that Mozilla should not be doing.
Guess what Mozilla's response is when Google lists something they shouldn't? "Take it up with Google". And you think Google supports those who they defame better than their usual customers? No. This is not a hypothetical scenario.
Re: Mozilla to put ads in Firefox address bar suggestions
#400I've disabled suggestion on Brave for awhile, it's a PITA if you start from fresh so you have to work on bookmarking a lot. But now this, I don't regret to have no suggestion in address bar at all.