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Mozilla to put ads in Firefox address bar suggestions

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Re: Mozilla to put ads in Firefox address bar suggestions

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Post by deepstack »

my123 wrote: post #143
_8j50 wrote: post #100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Brave is based on Chromium, it lacks some of the privacy centric features that are found in Gecko browsers. 1st party isolation,tracker blocking, containers, anti fingerprinting measures and SNI encryption are some things I can think of right now (maybe chrome as caught up now?) Plus, Google controls Chromium and Firefox is literally the only alternative now. They push changes that are against or in in ignorance of o…

You also have Safari (and GNOME Web on Linux) using the WebKit engine, developed by Apple as an alternative... But that's not available on Android or Windows (the WebKit port exists there, but no good UI frontend as far I know)... which are the two big platforms. (because Apple doesn't care enough about those I guess?)

Wasn't Chrome originally a fork of WebKit when G and A are still buddy buddy?

Re: Mozilla to put ads in Firefox address bar suggestions

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Post by pronik »

Adrig wrote: post #34

Meh, the feature is easily deactivable, the settings are clear and extensive. As far as ads go, it's one of the best implementations. Firefox still has no alternative in the privacy / user-centric space (don't mention Brave, I'm gonna get mad). Mozilla has done a lot for the web, I can give them some slack for exploring different revenue models. Still, I'm going to keep on eye for this kind of practices in the future…

Just imagine the meltdown if Google or Microsoft built that in. Somehow, Mozilla always get the slack and a couple of months down the road they are the saviour of the privacy world yet again.

Re: Mozilla to put ads in Firefox address bar suggestions

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Post by DoingIsLearning »

melomal wrote: post #63
sersi wrote: post #21

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Exactly, I would not mind paying 50 usd a year (it's what I already have paid in donation for mozilla).

1 user at $4.16 per month is not going to help, support and develop a competitive browser or search engine. 1mn users paying $4/m is going to be just over $40mn per year. There's no way any company can compete with MS or Google on that revenue stream. Get investors and they will enforce whatever it takes to build revenue = ads.

Get your facts right, FF has 870 million YAUs. You're off by several orders of magnitude.

This whole argument that only ads can save FF is weak and unfounded.

Also I don't want a "competitive browser", I want a simple browser that is customizable and that if needed, developers can run more complex addons on top of it. That is it. I am sure I am not alone in this.

And I most certainly don't want FF to spend money/time on "search engine" features. Let the search engines companies do that.

Re: Mozilla to put ads in Firefox address bar suggestions

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Post by Tom4hawk »

foobar33333 wrote: post #249
axelthegerman wrote: post #79

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Yes, but how can you then support FF financially to make sure it doesn't go away or development grinds to a halt?

Subscribe to their other things like the VPN thats coming out.

To incentivize work on side products that I'm actually not interested in any way or form? This doesn't make any sense.

Re: Mozilla to put ads in Firefox address bar suggestions

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Post by fleddr »

axelthegerman wrote: post #79
Semaphor wrote: post #67

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Alternatively, you could just choose to opt out when it asks you?

Yes, but how can you then support FF financially to make sure it doesn't go away or development grinds to a halt?

Mozilla still has plenty of cash and revenue to fund Firefox development. But they did the opposite, they fired large parts of the development team.

No donation will change that, it would require a strategic rollback from leadership.

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Post by Barrin92 »

rejectfinite wrote: post #327
hsbauauvhabzb wrote: post #75

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Outsider here: whats wrong with brave? I haven’t touched it but have no reason to distrust it, happy for you to change that for me though

Try just installing base Brave - "Sponsored" backgrounds (often crypto ads or credit cards!) - "Cards" with more weird Crypto ads! - Brave "news" - Brave "rewards" Yes I can turn all that of, and I have, but hard to recommend to normal users that dont spend 10min turning all the shit off. They also did some weird link shit a while back.

also while we're on the topic of dark patterns, the cards, the sponsored backgrounds and the crypto crap seem to be curiously enough the only settings that don't sync. on every machine you have to turn it all off manually again.

Re: Mozilla to put ads in Firefox address bar suggestions

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Post by dmos62 »

I can't help but think that this constant conflict of interest seemingly inherent in browsers has technological causes. If Web were simpler, its design better, there would be more implementations and they would be cheaper. Even though it upsets me that the Firefox we knew is doing itself in, Web becoming more dystopian is the most likely catalyst to a better alternative appearing. Darkest before the dawn type of scenario.
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