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Re: The naughty username checking system used by Twitch

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> We used to call this the "Scunthorpe problem" Fwiw, it's well-known as such, after relatively high-profile incidents involving people with that address: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scunthorpe_problem

Is that just well-known in the UK though? I've mentioned this to people outside the UK and only occasionally have they known it.

I'm also in the UK, so I don't really know. I thought/assumed it was fairly well-known among software engineers, HN, etc. (not discounting the day's 'lucky 10,000' of course) but not so much by others, regardless of country. :shrug:

Re: The naughty username checking system used by Twitch

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We used to call this the "Scunthorpe problem" - how do you filter for obviously rude names while still allowing people to have their actual names? Bearing in mind that some people's names are actually rude. I worked on the application form processing for the Nectar card launch in the UK back in the early 2000's, and we had several cases. Luckily we had human data-entry clerks in the loop, so all we had to do was flag…

People should just be taught (I would consider this is an essential skill which should be put in basic school curriculum to psychologically prepare people for the life, many support/sales professionals learn it quickly but the rest of the people don't) words are just words and they don't have to take them seriously. No word is rude until you consider it rude. No word can actually harm you directly. It's you who is in…

What s rude is the shared imagery not the words. If I call myself MyDirtyDickInYourDogBringsMeToOrgasm, imagining this scene is disgusting enough to ask me to change it.

Words are not just symbols on paper, they are image triggers in your brain.

Re: The naughty username checking system used by Twitch

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I have a bus ticket from Stockholm with the serial of F4CK. Totally made my day back then to be honest.

A guy at my school(in Poland) got in serious trouble because of his hoodie with the huge FCUK logo on it. It took actually showing the principal that this is a legit company[0] and not just a play on "FUCK". [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_Connection_(clothing)

I mean, it was still a play on the word, just being done by a legit company. Not that legit means mature.

I was doing a student event when I saw someone wear "K1SS MY 4RSE". I told him "What an obnoxious hoodie.". He meekly said "I thought it said 'Kiss my force'.". I later saw him in a corner praying. I should've asked him what Allah would've thought about him talking to him wearing that hoodie.

Re: The naughty username checking system used by Twitch

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People should just be taught (I would consider this is an essential skill which should be put in basic school curriculum to psychologically prepare people for the life, many support/sales professionals learn it quickly but the rest of the people don't) words are just words and they don't have to take them seriously. No word is rude until you consider it rude. No word can actually harm you directly. It's you who is in…

What s rude is the shared imagery not the words. If I call myself MyDirtyDickInYourDogBringsMeToOrgasm, imagining this scene is disgusting enough to ask me to change it. Words are not just symbols on paper, they are image triggers in your brain.

I have Aphantasia, thankfully I'm invulnerable to this.

Re: The naughty username checking system used by Twitch

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We used to call this the "Scunthorpe problem" - how do you filter for obviously rude names while still allowing people to have their actual names? Bearing in mind that some people's names are actually rude. I worked on the application form processing for the Nectar card launch in the UK back in the early 2000's, and we had several cases. Luckily we had human data-entry clerks in the loop, so all we had to do was flag…

People should just be taught (I would consider this is an essential skill which should be put in basic school curriculum to psychologically prepare people for the life, many support/sales professionals learn it quickly but the rest of the people don't) words are just words and they don't have to take them seriously. No word is rude until you consider it rude. No word can actually harm you directly. It's you who is in…

> Uhura : But why should I object to that term, sir? You see, in our century, we've learned not to fear words.

Re: The naughty username checking system used by Twitch

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We used to be taught that "sticks and stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me". I'm not so sure that has ever been true. Emotional bullying was always a thing, and it did hurt. I'm glad that we're now taking that more seriously. But it's also true that my emotions are my responsibility, and my emotional reaction to words is unique to me. I cannot force everyone else to be responsible for how I feel abo…

>I suspect that this balance is what we call "good manners" or "politeness". Or "empathy". And I think on an interpersonal level this is easy. You can't force anyone else to be responsible for how you feel about their words, that is true. But if you say to a colleague or a friend that "when you call me X, that makes me feel bad, could you call me Y instead?". Depending on the friend they might want to understand why…

> But on a collective level we aren't yet (if we'll ever be) as developed a civilization to have empathy on that level.

I agree. Which is why we have rules around politeness and manners, which roughly conform to same actions as actual empathy. Which makes sense - people don't always have the same level of empathy, there are lots of neurodivergent people who will never understand empathy but who can learn a set of rules that will allow them to avoid social problems.

Or at least, we used to. I feel like this respect for being nice to each other so we can all get along is on the wane.

Or it might be that I moved to Berlin, and Berliners are famous in Germany for being rude/abrupt, and Germans are famous globally for being direct ;)

Re: The naughty username checking system used by Twitch

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post #204

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>I suspect that this balance is what we call "good manners" or "politeness". Or "empathy". And I think on an interpersonal level this is easy. You can't force anyone else to be responsible for how you feel about their words, that is true. But if you say to a colleague or a friend that "when you call me X, that makes me feel bad, could you call me Y instead?". Depending on the friend they might want to understand why…

> the creative and determined individual called cVnt_h_ater have bypassed the code and can proudly wear his misogyny on his sleeve. Why deny him this right? Isn't it convenient to let kids and mentally unhealthy people to identity themselves this obviously? It's always easier when you know what to expect.

Because if you let them do their thing, they group together, drag more people down to their level and then get one of them elected as president. That's not in my interest.

Re: The naughty username checking system used by Twitch

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We used to call this the "Scunthorpe problem" - how do you filter for obviously rude names while still allowing people to have their actual names? Bearing in mind that some people's names are actually rude. I worked on the application form processing for the Nectar card launch in the UK back in the early 2000's, and we had several cases. Luckily we had human data-entry clerks in the loop, so all we had to do was flag…

People should just be taught (I would consider this is an essential skill which should be put in basic school curriculum to psychologically prepare people for the life, many support/sales professionals learn it quickly but the rest of the people don't) words are just words and they don't have to take them seriously. No word is rude until you consider it rude. No word can actually harm you directly. It's you who is in…

So "get over it" is your solution? Sounds like you've never been a victim. Place yourself in someone else's shoes please.

I mean I don't like the (self) censorship either and don't mind rude or mature words, since we're all mature here and calling a fucking asshole a f*ing a$$h0le is an insult to people's intellect.

Re: The naughty username checking system used by Twitch

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People should just be taught (I would consider this is an essential skill which should be put in basic school curriculum to psychologically prepare people for the life, many support/sales professionals learn it quickly but the rest of the people don't) words are just words and they don't have to take them seriously. No word is rude until you consider it rude. No word can actually harm you directly. It's you who is in…

We used to be taught that "sticks and stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me". I'm not so sure that has ever been true. Emotional bullying was always a thing, and it did hurt. I'm glad that we're now taking that more seriously. But it's also true that my emotions are my responsibility, and my emotional reaction to words is unique to me. I cannot force everyone else to be responsible for how I feel abo…

I thought it was something along the lines of "sticks and stones may break my bones but words can break hearts"

Basically, the pen is stronger than the sword, kind of morale.

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