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Mozilla to put ads in Firefox address bar suggestions

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Re: Mozilla to put ads in Firefox address bar suggestions

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krageon wrote: post #285
dgb23 wrote: post #169

I stuck with Firefox when Chrome stormed the market with a faster browser. Mozilla has had a highly respected name. I'm not so convinced about that anymore... For me the core values of the browser are: - free software, open source, as in freedom - independent (mozilla is weak here) - developer friendly, good debugging/dev interface (they are slowly losing here) - keeping up with web standards, letting me play with pr…

Functionally there are only two browsers, and they are both terrible. As such, it has to be no. The options you have are reskins of those two browsers or browsers that miss big features and are therefore a PITA to use (I'm looking at you, Safari).

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Re: Mozilla to put ads in Firefox address bar suggestions

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Post by maleldil »

vadfa wrote: post #234
57844743385 wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What’s wrong with paying market rates for a CEO? Do you think they should find a CEO below market rates? Have you donated money to Mozilla or Wikipedia?

They had an extremely competent CEO who was more than happy to work for a price below market rates, but he was a conservative, so they sacked him. Now Mozilla has what it deserves.

Being a Conservative is one thing, but he was/is (he hasn't publicly gone back on his stance AFAIK) homophobic. Eich had to go.

Re: Mozilla to put ads in Firefox address bar suggestions

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Post by RocketMan9999 »

Mozilla FYI, the people here represent only a minor portion of 6% of the whole web browser user base, just ignore them and leave some subtle ways for them to disable whatever they hate, and everything will be fine. People here aren't living in the same world where your usual users live.

Re: Mozilla to put ads in Firefox address bar suggestions

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Post by krageon »

flowck wrote: post #10

Can anybody think of a sustainable business model for companies that mean well for users? (Mozilla, Signal)

> Signal

Signal is run by a known angry dictator. The same goes for Mozilla. These companies don't mean well for users, they mean well for themselves. The rest is the narrative sauce that they abuse to insert themselves into a specific niche.

Re: Mozilla to put ads in Firefox address bar suggestions

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Post by krono »

stragies wrote: post #151
krono wrote: post #109

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Neutral FYI: VLC on OSX had unremovable sponsored radio/podcasts in its sidebar last time I used it

The official, upstream VLC installer, or some third-party repackaging?

Official, there are numerous forum posts about it. One of which can be found here https://forum.videolan.org/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=99040

Re: Mozilla to put ads in Firefox address bar suggestions

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Post by Accacin »

To be perfectly honest, I'm not too against this. I do not mind DDG showing me lawn mowers when I search for "lawn mowers", and if this is similar but in Firefox, that's OK.

The fact is, Firefox needs funding and this seems to be the way of doing it. Brave does something similar too.

I hope the ads are purely contextual and do not track me, and I would appreciate a way for people to opt out.

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Post by lifthrasiir »

Kototama wrote: post #29

If their CEO salary was not paid in millions dollars maybe the users would be more keen to donate money? I never saw a fundraising like the ones from Wikipedia.

If Wikimedia were managing Firefox you would see the "donation" button in the toolbar that can't be really disabled during the fundrasing season; you can press a small x button, but it will come back as soon as you think it is truly gone. You are severely understating Wikimedia's aggressive campaigns.

Re: Mozilla to put ads in Firefox address bar suggestions

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Post by ekianjo »

eCa wrote: post #4

As someone who has used Firefox since v0.* I really, really, really dislike the language they have used lately. > relevant suggestions from our trusted partners The suggestions are not relevant to, and the partners not trusted by, me.

Worst thing is that every single time they do this kind of bullshit, they do it without asking for opt-in and enable it sneakily by default. Absolutely the worst.

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Post by toyg »

strken wrote: post #276
Certhas wrote: post #56

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A browser is expensive. Currently Firefox is funded (though not controlled) by Google's Ad business. I am all for them reducing their reliance on Google's Ad business. In this sense this is a step _towards_ what you want. I really really dislike them double speaking about this though.

Mozilla takes hundreds of millions of dollars in revenue a year. For decades it hired its engineers from the single most expensive place on earth to hire an engineer, the Bay Area. It boosted CEO pay into the millions shortly before laying off a big chunk of its engineering team. If they had taken the cash they spent on "diversifying their revenue streams" (i.e. getting distracted by side projects while their moneyma…

I'm one of those five, and I'm not switching. Chromium is tainted, Brave is outright corrupt, and IceCat is seriously unpractical (they don't even build Windows binaries, because ideology beats practicality for them).

Do I hate the current exec team? Fuck yes. Do I have any serious alternative? Effectively, no. Am I a hostage? Sadly, a bit. I hope people with the power to influence this state of thing will, sooner or later, draw a line and find a better way forward (i.e. a new exec team). Either that, or the project will die and hopefully someone else will pick up the baton.

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