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Mozilla to put ads in Firefox address bar suggestions

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Re: Mozilla to put ads in Firefox address bar suggestions

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> Can't we have one piece of good software that doesn't try to shove "relevant" "suggestions" from "trusted" "partners" down our throats? A few don't, like VLC: https://www.reddit.com/r/bestof/comments/73dafr/vlc_creator_...

Neutral FYI: VLC on OSX had unremovable sponsored radio/podcasts in its sidebar last time I used it

The official, upstream VLC installer, or some third-party repackaging?

Re: Mozilla to put ads in Firefox address bar suggestions

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As someone who has used Firefox since v0.* I really, really, really dislike the language they have used lately. > relevant suggestions from our trusted partners The suggestions are not relevant to, and the partners not trusted by, me.

> RELEVANT suggestions The fuck with this? How can they make _relevant_ suggestions without spying on my (s/browsing history/activity/), profiling it and phoning back to the mothership? (Edited, "browsing history" -> "activity")

> When contextual suggestions are enabled, Mozilla receives your search queries. When you see or click on a Firefox Suggest result, Mozilla collects and sends your search queries and the result you click on to our partners through a Mozilla-owned proxy service. The data we share with partners does not include personally identifying information and is only shared when you see or click on a suggestion.

I wish they'd give the about:config key to disable it as well as UI instructions in posts like this. The former can be set in a preferences file; so easily synchronised between machines and not forgotten when setting up a new one.

Re: Mozilla to put ads in Firefox address bar suggestions

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Knowing Mozilla, the option will be changed and renamed every version and will have to be re-enabled manually again and again.

And eventually, Mozilla's 'telemetry' will tell them that 95% users never opt out, and that'll justify removing the opt out option entirely.

There's still a Preferences option to opt out of "Play DRM-controlled content", even though I'm sure <5% of people opt out of that. Some options stick around for the sake of principle.

Re: Mozilla to put ads in Firefox address bar suggestions

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_What the hell are you doing Mozilla._ In an age of massive distrust for companies, you are (were?) one of the few companies that had both age and some trust. So many other companies promise privacy but are extremely young. There are so many other directions you could go! Why would you chip away at the value of your greatest asset!?

I continue to use Firefox because I want to avoid a chromium monopoly. Yet I don't see any plan by Mozilla to avoid being reliant on their direct competitor.

Re: Mozilla to put ads in Firefox address bar suggestions

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Let me pay for Firefox, please!

There's always Palemoon [0] (for anyone who likes the classic firefox interface). I've been using it for years (and have donated), plus I like the fact it can be installed just by unpacking a tarball/zip file (as well as the more usual methods). [0] http://www.palemoon.org/

Wow, thanks, I need to try it!

Re: Mozilla to put ads in Firefox address bar suggestions

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Firefox marketshare has gone down from approx 16% in 2015 to about 6% in 2021. All the while the strategy to monetize and generate revenue streams while maintaining trust has been a challenge. Nothing they have been doing in the recent past has got me to go back to Firefox.

So what do you use that isn’t worse in this respect?

Re: Mozilla to put ads in Firefox address bar suggestions

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Can anybody think of a sustainable business model for companies that mean well for users? (Mozilla, Signal)

Subscriptions. If you're going to keep people permanently on staff, a steady revenue stream is required. Either the users will provide that (aligning the incentives of the company with the users, since financial performance directly correlates to customer satisfaction), or other companies will, in the form of ad spend, corporate partnerships, cross-promotion, whatever. Possibly the more sustainable model overall is f…

Firefox and Signal are both reliant on market share to stay relevant, and I would say they cannot afford losing users to a subscription model.

It could work if the base product was free and some addon could be purchased as a subscription, but that is also pretty much happening already with Mozilla VPN.

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