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Re: The naughty username checking system used by Twitch

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Post by exar0815 »

marcus_holmes wrote: post #167

We used to call this the "Scunthorpe problem" - how do you filter for obviously rude names while still allowing people to have their actual names? Bearing in mind that some people's names are actually rude. I worked on the application form processing for the Nectar card launch in the UK back in the early 2000's, and we had several cases. Luckily we had human data-entry clerks in the loop, so all we had to do was flag…

Its a similar problem to people having names that are considered "fake". I shudder what people actually named Harry Potter or James Bond have to go through regularly.

Also, I dont see any sense in actually enforcing any of those lists. I always think about the "Journey of Life" in The Grand Tour, which, frankly, is completely inoffensive in any other language than english https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLXe2WTYngQ

Re: The naughty username checking system used by Twitch

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Post by mellavora »

buildsjets wrote: post #73

My wife used to name her RPG characters “Isis” after a cat we used to have. Used to have to explain to vets that we named her Isis years before Bush and Cheney created Isis by starting their illegitimate war in Iraq.

Better yet, my children's school had a parent support portal called Isis.

I have some fun emails whose subject line is "here are your ISIS family log-in details"

and this was right around the time the terrorist group was frequently in the news

Re: The naughty username checking system used by Twitch

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Post by marcus_holmes »

qwerty456127 wrote: post #173
marcus_holmes wrote: post #167

We used to call this the "Scunthorpe problem" - how do you filter for obviously rude names while still allowing people to have their actual names? Bearing in mind that some people's names are actually rude. I worked on the application form processing for the Nectar card launch in the UK back in the early 2000's, and we had several cases. Luckily we had human data-entry clerks in the loop, so all we had to do was flag…

People should just be taught (I would consider this is an essential skill which should be put in basic school curriculum to psychologically prepare people for the life, many support/sales professionals learn it quickly but the rest of the people don't) words are just words and they don't have to take them seriously. No word is rude until you consider it rude. No word can actually harm you directly. It's you who is in…

We used to be taught that "sticks and stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me".

I'm not so sure that has ever been true. Emotional bullying was always a thing, and it did hurt. I'm glad that we're now taking that more seriously.

But it's also true that my emotions are my responsibility, and my emotional reaction to words is unique to me. I cannot force everyone else to be responsible for how I feel about their words. And I cannot expect everyone else to anticipate how I might feel about what they want to say and modify their speech accordingly.

There's a balance in there. I suspect that this balance is what we call "good manners" or "politeness".

Re: The naughty username checking system used by Twitch

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Post by Veen »

smohare wrote: post #57
phamilton wrote: post #34

We had to do this for a link shortening system (to make sure random base64 didn't contain profanity). It was a pretty fun problem. Not just the implementation, but doing the math to make sure it didn't make our shortened links easily enumerable. The implementation wasn't too bad, but we set up logging initially to spit out any random strings it decided to block. I demo'd this in front of the whole company and live ta…

It’s so laughable that we care about whether a generated string contains some temporally relevant profanity. We truly are still barbarians, and will be viewed as such by history.

If you generate an identifier for an important client that contains "knobhead," they won't think it's a randomly generated string, but that someone at your company is deliberately insulting them.

Re: The naughty username checking system used by Twitch

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Post by ElectronShak »

pjc50 wrote: post #179
geoduck14 wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>the guy that streamed a talking banana on Twitch Of all the ways I expected a talking banana to backfire, I didn't expect this one. Thanks for sharing

Anything exposed to the open internet devolves into porn or racism or both unless active effort is made to prevent it. I'm reminded of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tay_(bot)

quite curious as to how Instagram managed to avoid this, despite launching with no moderation, (just Mike and Kevin), yet all you needed was an email to use the service...

Re: The naughty username checking system used by Twitch

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Post by input_sh »

lionkor wrote: post #174

So... This ignores lookalike unicode from other languages? Or does SQL know that, for example, `c` (ascii c) looks like `с` (cyrillic s)?

It only allows English characters to begin with. It doesn't even do Latin Extended characters like čćšđ, let alone non-Latin.

Re: The naughty username checking system used by Twitch

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Post by kypro »

qwerty456127 wrote: post #173
marcus_holmes wrote: post #167

We used to call this the "Scunthorpe problem" - how do you filter for obviously rude names while still allowing people to have their actual names? Bearing in mind that some people's names are actually rude. I worked on the application form processing for the Nectar card launch in the UK back in the early 2000's, and we had several cases. Luckily we had human data-entry clerks in the loop, so all we had to do was flag…

People should just be taught (I would consider this is an essential skill which should be put in basic school curriculum to psychologically prepare people for the life, many support/sales professionals learn it quickly but the rest of the people don't) words are just words and they don't have to take them seriously. No word is rude until you consider it rude. No word can actually harm you directly. It's you who is in…

I'm quite a feminine guy and I was always called various homophobic slurs at school. Even though I wasn't gay I didn't understand why it would matter if I was so I would just say "ok".

Even when the insults could be considered objectively offensive I'm still generally okay with it. I've been called names quite a bit in the workplace over the years and I'm okay with it if makes them happy. Being autistic I don't really care and neurotypical people seem to get enjoyment calling people names so it's win-win.

High EQ individuals have told me this is wrong and the appropriate reaction would be to take offence and try to make them feel bad, but I've argued this would just result in an objective reduction in happiness in the world so it wouldn't make sense. Plus, most of the time my colleagues have been nice to my face so it's not like it's ever got in the way of me doing my job.

Re: The naughty username checking system used by Twitch

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Post by qwerty456127 »

kypro wrote: post #188
qwerty456127 wrote: post #173

Earlier quoted context omitted.

People should just be taught (I would consider this is an essential skill which should be put in basic school curriculum to psychologically prepare people for the life, many support/sales professionals learn it quickly but the rest of the people don't) words are just words and they don't have to take them seriously. No word is rude until you consider it rude. No word can actually harm you directly. It's you who is in…

I'm quite a feminine guy and I was always called various homophobic slurs at school. Even though I wasn't gay I didn't understand why it would matter if I was so I would just say "ok". Even when the insults could be considered objectively offensive I'm still generally okay with it. I've been called names quite a bit in the workplace over the years and I'm okay with it if makes them happy. Being autistic I don't reall…

I adore you but doubt your judgement about those being high EQ individuals.

By the way in the middle school we used a derogatory for gay every day without even having any idea of what did it mean, all we knew was that was the worst word we knew. When others bullied me (always (or I just never cared and don't remember the verbal) physically, way harder to endure) I occasionally went mad and called them this word repeatedly.

Re: The naughty username checking system used by Twitch

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Post by _hilro »

ibudiallo wrote: post #105

I used to work for a company that automated customer service. While we were trialing with new a client, our ai service responded to a customer: "Hey B**, thanks for reaching out." To our surprise, the end user did not feel offended at all. In fact, they were happy because we responded instantly instead of the usual 24 to 48 hours. [Story]: https://idiallo.com/blog/do-you-make-your-customers-wait

The word is bitch so the sanitised version would be B**

Why portray the bad word as 3 letters - it doesn't make sense.

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