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Re: Mozilla to put ads in Firefox address bar suggestions

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Post by Certhas »

eCa wrote: post #4

As someone who has used Firefox since v0.* I really, really, really dislike the language they have used lately. > relevant suggestions from our trusted partners The suggestions are not relevant to, and the partners not trusted by, me.

Agreed. I am completely fine with them trying to run their own ads. It's much better than indirectly funding them through Googles Ads. But just be upfront about what you're doing.

This extends to the splash screen as well. No "disable ads" button just "not now" or "settings".

In contrast the settings dialogue looks fine.

Re: Mozilla to put ads in Firefox address bar suggestions

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Post by elaus »

mhaberl wrote: post #11
eCa wrote: post #4

As someone who has used Firefox since v0.* I really, really, really dislike the language they have used lately. > relevant suggestions from our trusted partners The suggestions are not relevant to, and the partners not trusted by, me.

Then you won't enable it. What is there to dislike?

He wrote that he dislikes the language – and so do I.

I feel like this kind of marketing language is only there to obfuscate the real reason why things are done. They want to include ads to help finance Mozilla – the main goal isn't "to enhance and speed up your searching experience". Calling the introduction of ads an enhancement for the user is just dishonest.

Re: Mozilla to put ads in Firefox address bar suggestions

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Post by toyg »

rhn_mk1 wrote: post #18
toyg wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They could start by slashing the out-of-control executive salaries maybe? Ahaha, who am I kidding, capitalism be capitalism... Edit: before you knee-jerk downvote, please read up on the evolution of exec compensation at Mozilla. It's pretty eye-opening, and really exemplifies what's going wrong with the project.

I was expecting some reply that has actual thought, not a knee-jerk reaction.

Exec salaries at Mozilla are a real problem. The search-engine deals bring a lot of money, which would be more than enough to run an engineering-focused group that develops a browser and associated technologies. However, it's not enough to run yet another megacorp-style organization with overinflated management compensation, which is what it has slowly turned into.

Re: Mozilla to put ads in Firefox address bar suggestions

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Post by tokai »

57844743385 wrote: post #43
Kototama wrote: post #29

If their CEO salary was not paid in millions dollars maybe the users would be more keen to donate money? I never saw a fundraising like the ones from Wikipedia.

What’s wrong with paying market rates for a CEO? Do you think they should find a CEO below market rates? Have you donated money to Mozilla or Wikipedia?

> What’s wrong with paying market rates for a CEO?

The rates have bubbled, and do not reflect the value CEO's provides for their organisations.

> Do you think they should find a CEO below market rates?

Yes. A dedicated person, at home - in a bathrobe, approving code merges would do.

Re: Mozilla to put ads in Firefox address bar suggestions

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Post by Certhas »

AegirLeet wrote: post #46
eCa wrote: post #4

As someone who has used Firefox since v0.* I really, really, really dislike the language they have used lately. > relevant suggestions from our trusted partners The suggestions are not relevant to, and the partners not trusted by, me.

Yeah, it really sucks. I've been using Firefox for 15 years or so but this shit is just so discouraging. Can't we have one piece of good software that doesn't try to shove "relevant" "suggestions" from "trusted" "partners" down our throats? I just want a browser that isn't controlled by the ad mafia.

A browser is expensive. Currently Firefox is funded (though not controlled) by Google's Ad business. I am all for them reducing their reliance on Google's Ad business. In this sense this is a step _towards_ what you want. I really really dislike them double speaking about this though.

Re: Mozilla to put ads in Firefox address bar suggestions

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Post by elaus »

57844743385 wrote: post #43
Kototama wrote: post #29

If their CEO salary was not paid in millions dollars maybe the users would be more keen to donate money? I never saw a fundraising like the ones from Wikipedia.

What’s wrong with paying market rates for a CEO? Do you think they should find a CEO below market rates? Have you donated money to Mozilla or Wikipedia?

What salary does the CEO of Wikipedia get and would increasing their salary to "market rates" improve Wikipedia or make it more viable?
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