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Re: Mozilla to put ads in Firefox address bar suggestions

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Let me pay for Firefox, please!

Okay. https://donate.mozilla.org Edit: My assumption was that a proportion of the money donated to the Mozilla Foundation is used to fund Mozilla Firefox. I stand corrected (but I still consider the foundation worth supporting). A follow up question for those replying to this comment: does the revenue from Pocket and/or the Mozilla VPN help to fund Firefox?

That donates to Mozilla, not Firefox. That is what people have the problem with, they cannot directly donate to a /product/

Re: Mozilla to put ads in Firefox address bar suggestions

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As someone who has used Firefox since v0.* I really, really, really dislike the language they have used lately. > relevant suggestions from our trusted partners The suggestions are not relevant to, and the partners not trusted by, me.

Indeed. They should just state "It's an Ad". I doubt they actually going to try every product that they are advertising, to make wording "suggestion" be even close to the truth. That said, I don't understand, why would somebody use Firefox instead of Chrome, Edge, or Safari if they ad in-browser ads.

Because all the browsers you mention are controlled by megacorps who want to own the web for their own gain. As mismanaged as Mozilla is, they are in it to make the web a decent place for users.

This said, of course, I hate this "feature" and I'll make sure I disable it.

Re: Mozilla to put ads in Firefox address bar suggestions

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If their CEO salary was not paid in millions dollars maybe the users would be more keen to donate money? I never saw a fundraising like the ones from Wikipedia.

What’s wrong with paying market rates for a CEO?

Do you think they should find a CEO below market rates?

Have you donated money to Mozilla or Wikipedia?

Re: Mozilla to put ads in Firefox address bar suggestions

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post #17

It’s sucky and I particularly hate ads percolating to every part if my life, BUT how are they meant to support Firefox and other software without a revenue stream? Mozilla seems to attract criticism for how they run the whole operation, I can’t tell how correct it is, but even if they run it perfectly they still need revenue.

Let me pay for Firefox, please!

I expect if Mozilla made opt-out a paid feature, then all that would happen is that Firefox would be forked without ads, and the general public use Chrome or Edge anyway.

Re: Mozilla to put ads in Firefox address bar suggestions

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Before you attack Mozilla….. are you using it as your primary browser? I.e are you supporting them already? Do you believe Mozilla should be able to pay its bills? If you’re not happy with this way of raising revenue, what else do you suggest?

I don't care about Mozilla. I just want to support Firefox.

Re: Mozilla to put ads in Firefox address bar suggestions

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post #4

As someone who has used Firefox since v0.* I really, really, really dislike the language they have used lately. > relevant suggestions from our trusted partners The suggestions are not relevant to, and the partners not trusted by, me.

Yeah, it really sucks. I've been using Firefox for 15 years or so but this shit is just so discouraging. Can't we have one piece of good software that doesn't try to shove "relevant" "suggestions" from "trusted" "partners" down our throats?

I just want a browser that isn't controlled by the ad mafia.

Re: Mozilla to put ads in Firefox address bar suggestions

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> You might notice a message inviting you to enable these new suggestions the next time you install or update Firefox. So its opt-in, what is the issue?

A lot of dark patterns are opt-in or "We're trying out something new, it's just a test" to start with. Until they're silently upgraded to opt-out a year or two down the line. Then the opt-out gets moved to the ass-end of a legacy settings menu under a generic name under the pretext of UI renewal. Then a couple more years later the "It's been like that for years, what's the issue?" line can be used to shut down anyone who still cares. It's best to nip this kind of thing in the bud.

Re: Mozilla to put ads in Firefox address bar suggestions

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post #4

As someone who has used Firefox since v0.* I really, really, really dislike the language they have used lately. > relevant suggestions from our trusted partners The suggestions are not relevant to, and the partners not trusted by, me.

Indeed. They should just state "It's an Ad". I doubt they actually going to try every product that they are advertising, to make wording "suggestion" be even close to the truth. That said, I don't understand, why would somebody use Firefox instead of Chrome, Edge, or Safari if they ad in-browser ads.

Because it’s still a better browser in many ways.

Re: Mozilla to put ads in Firefox address bar suggestions

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Meh, the feature is easily deactivable, the settings are clear and extensive. As far as ads go, it's one of the best implementations. Firefox still has no alternative in the privacy / user-centric space (don't mention Brave, I'm gonna get mad). Mozilla has done a lot for the web, I can give them some slack for exploring different revenue models. Still, I'm going to keep on eye for this kind of practices in the future…

> don't mention Brave, I'm gonna get mad

Brave

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