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My favorite is "The Immortal": https://matiane.wordpress.com/2019/10/11/immortal-by-jorge-l...

'Tlön, Uqbar, Orbis Tertius' for me: https://sites.evergreen.edu/politicalshakespeares/wp-content...

Yes, and also "Funes the Memorious" (for me) as well

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Can someone please help me? I'm trying to recall a post on HN within the past year that ended up introducing me to The Library of Babel. It was like a textual/visual blog post/article either in the same vein as The Library or direct text from it...or maybe the images were originally meant to illustrate it. It was weird. That's all I can remember.

I posted this to HN 10 months ago but it got no attention.

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2015/may/04/virtual-librar...

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Borges is the best author most people have never heard of. His stories are mind bending and he's an amazing human being. You can listen to him giving lectures on verse here, his voice is hypnotic: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSLV7t9DvN8

Most people is an interesting marker.

In my academic circles he was a demigod, alongside other giants of South American and SA diaspora literature like Gabriel Garcia Marquez, Julio Cortazar, Isabella Allende, and was considered more or less on par with Franz Kafka in terms of significance. Familiarity with all his major work was taken for granted.

I participated in a thread recently about the relative merits of attending college. I opined in it that contrary to the OP's presumption, jumping immediately into bootcamp or into a startup etc., there are things to be had from a broad liberal arts education that you're unlikely to pick up elsewhere in any comprehensive away. The broader intellectual landscape of your culture is one; less important than intimate familiarity with any particular writer or canon is a sense that such things exist; and are always evolving in response to cultural currents.

Borges is so important a figure it is striking that he would be considered esoteric.

I imagine the same is true now for other giants of world literature, like Milan Kundera, or, Stanislaw Lem, or, Italo Calvino, all of whom still have a lot to offer a contemporary audience.

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As a HN reader from Argentina, I thank ColinWright to share this with the community. Here in Argentina we are very proud of Borges and his works - and it is always nice to see people from around the world discovering or revisiting him.

Here are several of my favorite excerpts by him/related to him to which you might enjoy if you haven't already came across them:

"You were asleep. I wake you. The vast morning brings the illusion of a beginning. You had forgotten Virgil. Here are the hexameters. I bring you many things. The four Greek elements: earth, water, fire, air. The single name of a woman. The friendship of the moon. The bright colors of the atlas. Forgetting, which purifies. Memory, which chooses and rediscovers. The habits which help us to feel we are immortal. The sphere and the hands that measure elusive time. The fragrance of sandalwood. The doubts that we call, not without some vanity, metaphysics. The curve of the walking stick the hand anticipates. The taste of grapes and of honey."

"Nothing is built on stone; All is built on sand, but we must build as if the sand were stone."

"All men who repeat a line from Shakespeare are William Shakespeare."

"If the pages of this book contain some successful verse, the reader must excuse me the discourtesy of having usurped it first. Our nothingness differs little; it is a trivial and chance circumstance that you should be the reader of these exercises and I their author."

"Jorge Luis Borges fantasizes about Shakespeare speaking to God: I who have been so many men in vain want to be one, to be myself. God answered him out of a whirlwind: I too am not I; I dreamed the world as you, Shakespeare, dreamed your own work, and among the forms of my own dream are you, who like me are many, yet no one."

"You have wakened not out of sleep, but into a prior dream, and that dream lies within another, and so on, to infinity, which is the number of grains of sand. The path that you are to take is endless, and you will die before you have truly awakened."

"This web of time – the strands of which approach one another, bifurcate, intersect or ignore each other through the centuries –embraces every possibility. We do not exist in most of them. In some you exist and not I, while in others I do, and you do not, and yet in others both of us exist. In this one, in which chance has favored me, you have come to my gate. In another, you, crossing the garden, have found me dead. In yet another, I say these very same words but am in error, a phantom Time is forever dividing itself toward innumerable futures."

"The Visuddhimagga (Road to Purity), illustrates the same doctrine with the same figure: Strictly speaking, the duration of the life of a living being is exceedingly brief, lasting only while a thought lasts. Just as a chariot wheel in rolling rolls only at one point of the tire, and in resting rests only at one point; in exactly the same way the life of a living being lasts only for the period of one thought (Radhakrishnan: Indian Philosophy, I, 373). Other Buddhist texts say that the world annihilates itself and reappears six thousand five hundred million times a day and that all men are an illusion, vertiginously produced by a series of momentaneous and solitary men. The being of a past moment of thought — the Road to Purity tells us — has lived, but does not live nor will it live. The being of a future moment will live, but has not lived nor does it live. The being of the present moment of thought does live, but has not lived nor will it live (op. cit., I, 407), a dictum which we may compare with the following of Plutarch (De E apud Delphos, 18): The man of yesterday has died in that of today, that of today dies in that of tomorrow."

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> the middle-square method is a method of generating pseudorandom numbers

> The book The Broken Dice by Ivar Ekeland gives an extended account of how the method was invented by a Franciscan friar known only as Brother Edvin sometime between 1240 and 1250.[3] Supposedly, the manuscript is now lost, but Jorge Luis Borges sent Ekeland a copy that he made at the Vatican Library.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middle-square_method

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

How would you tell the difference between that book and a similar book with a plausible but flawed escape plan? To paraphrase The Incredibles: when every book is there, no book is there.

How would you tell the difference between a book that has your life story in it and a similar book with inaccuracies in all the details you don't remember?

The book qualifies this by giving everyone a perfect memory of every moment of their lives.

> I found I could recall every detail of my life; every event ever experienced I could remember with perfect clarity. I could remember every word on every page I'd ever read. Every conversation. Every tax form I'd ever filled out. I could reconstruct every second of every day I'd been alive from the moment of my birth until the day I finally shut my eyes at the end.

> This clarity of memory surprised me the first time I tried reviewing the past, but it was all there. (This was to be the greatest curse of Hell. Sometimes I would reply my entire life again and again for thousands of years. Remembering all the things I could have done differently, all the things... No. I won't go there now. I must tell this story).

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have you tried a search? https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&qu... Does that show up what you're looking for?

Thank you, but no luck. I don't think the post had any explicit references. Could've sworn someone must've mentioned it in the comments because how else would I end up on the Library of Babel wikipedia page?

Perhaps https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27950416 ?

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As a HN reader from Argentina, I thank ColinWright to share this with the community. Here in Argentina we are very proud of Borges and his works - and it is always nice to see people from around the world discovering or revisiting him.

Are there any other Argentinian writers you know that perhaps deserve more recognition in the anglosphere? I’ve read Borges and Cortazar—both floored me and left a lasting impression, they make me curious to learn about some of the other great authors from your country

I would suggest Ernesto Sabato, mainly his book essays. Another member of the proud 1900s writers.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are there any other Argentinian writers you know that perhaps deserve more recognition in the anglosphere? I’ve read Borges and Cortazar—both floored me and left a lasting impression, they make me curious to learn about some of the other great authors from your country

Adolfo Bioy Casares, who co-wrote books with Borges. And Borges himself was a fan of Evaristo Carriego.

One of my favorite things Borges does is interweave reality and fiction. For the longest time, I thought Casares was a fictional character. Nope, he’s a real person.
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