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Investigators say they've finally identified the Zodiac Killer

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Re: Investigators say they've finally identified the Zodiac Killer

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This seems super dubious. I just watched the 2007 film Zodiac this week so it's recently on my mind. The prime suspect, Arthur Leigh Allen, has so much incriminating evidence against him that it's just nuts to me that anyone considers this anything but a solved case. Seriously, just read this: https://zodiackiller.fandom.com/wiki/Arthur_Leigh_Allen#Incr... Most importantly of the list, a guy he shot who lived picked…

Maybe because I haven't followed the case at all but: that wiki says: "Allen was cleared through a comparison of DNA, fingerprints, palm prints, and handwriting." Most of the evidence seems to be a friend of his claiming he said all kinds of things about wanting to kill people. His friend might have just been nuts.

There's a ton even ignoring his maybe crazy friend...

>Allen was allegedly in Riverside on the weekend when Cheri Jo Bates was murdered. He later claimed to be in Pomona when he heard of Bates' murder.

>Allen took his only sick day of the year on Nov.1, 1966 (Bates was murdered on Oct. 30, 1966).

>Told police he was going up to Berryessa on the day of the Hartnell/Shepard attack, but decided to go up the coast instead.

>Allen admitted to possessing bloody knives on the day of the Berryessa attack, claiming that he used them to kill chickens.

(other friend...) >Allen communicated to his friend Philip that he was fascinated with the idea of killing people. He believed that people were more challenging to kill than animals since they were more intelligent. Similar sentiments were communicated during the three-part cipher mailed to newspapers. Allen also mentioned to the police that his favourite book was The Most Dangerous Game, a book about killing humans and possibly alluded to in a Zodiac correspondence.

>In 1991, the search warrant for Allen's house found bomb diagrams and the same ingredients for bombs that were mentioned in a previous Zodiac letter.

>Karen Allen, his sister-in-law, stated that Allen would use the shortened "trigger mech" in place of "trigger mechanism," as well as spelling Christmas with two S's. Both idiosyncrasies appear in the Zodiac letter to Melvin Belli.

This person is either the most unlucky person in the world with all these random associations with the zodiac killer, or was the actual zodiac killer.

Re: Investigators say they've finally identified the Zodiac Killer

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post #113

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The guy REALLY looks like the police sketches too. Almost perfectly the same, except for maybe a slight difference in nose width.

Does anyone else have issues with identifying and describing facial features. I have no problems recognizing people, but there’s no way I can verbalize them on a specific features basis. What kind of disorder do I have?

I took think id be terrible at this. I doubt I'd describe my own face to a sketch artist well, let alone a fleeting meeting with a stranger..

Re: Investigators say they've finally identified the Zodiac Killer

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post #113

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The guy REALLY looks like the police sketches too. Almost perfectly the same, except for maybe a slight difference in nose width.

Does anyone else have issues with identifying and describing facial features. I have no problems recognizing people, but there’s no way I can verbalize them on a specific features basis. What kind of disorder do I have?

Part of the sketch artist's job is to work with people who aren't familiar describing images.

Re: Investigators say they've finally identified the Zodiac Killer

#175

This seems super dubious. I just watched the 2007 film Zodiac this week so it's recently on my mind. The prime suspect, Arthur Leigh Allen, has so much incriminating evidence against him that it's just nuts to me that anyone considers this anything but a solved case. Seriously, just read this: https://zodiackiller.fandom.com/wiki/Arthur_Leigh_Allen#Incr... Most importantly of the list, a guy he shot who lived picked…

> When investigators contacted him anew in 1992, he suddenly died of heart failure before they could interview him. What are you implying? If anything.

Either medication-induced suicide or massive stress spike. It's very convenient timing to die.

Re: Investigators say they've finally identified the Zodiac Killer

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Does anyone else have issues with identifying and describing facial features. I have no problems recognizing people, but there’s no way I can verbalize them on a specific features basis. What kind of disorder do I have?

I don't know whether your experience is similar to mine, but I can't visualize faces at all, even of someone I have just been looking at. I have no issues recognizing people or visualizing things other than faces, so neither aphantasia nor prosopagnosia match.

I can’t visualize anything really. It’s like I just think about its shape in an abstract since but I don’t actually visualize anything it’s all words and thoughts in my head, no images.

Re: Investigators say they've finally identified the Zodiac Killer

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post #8

I feel like at least twice a year, there is some story like "Zodiac Killer Finally Identified" or "DB Cooper Finally Found". And behind these stories is usually just one person or group of people who are presenting their pet theory (which highlighted all facts supporting it, and conveniently brushes aside all facts which don't) and have savy media contacts so are able to get media exposure to help promote what's freq…

check out the press release from "The Case Busters"

https://secureservercdn.net/166.62.114.250/g9q.07b.myftpuplo...

Re: Investigators say they've finally identified the Zodiac Killer

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Unfortunately, "aphantasia" is now labeled as "the inability to voluntarily create a mental picture in your head". That's from Google. The primary problem with this label is that this could include some people who see involuntary imagery (like people), but don't do what is essentially creative visualization. For those people, they "know" the experience of seeing things in mind. Then there are the rest of us "aphants"…

> Then there are the rest of us "aphants" that don't ever see images internally, at all. What about remembering things that you have already seen? Let's say I ask you to watch, for example, the Star Trek TNG opening sequence. Can you "rewatch" it? I can. I can also sort of picture 'creative' images, to an extent. However, conjuring up faces of people I've met is pretty difficult. Even my dog, which I find easier than…

I've some sort of stock graphics library in my mind.

For example, I cannot visualize the apple I have in my hand, even if I consciously study it for a few minutes and note out the shape and colouration before closing my eyes. However, I can visualize "an apple", I even get a choice between clipart version or realistic stock photo version of a red delicious or an granny smith. I cannot conjure up the faces of people I know, or even my own face, but I can bring up "young adult asian male" "elderly white female" etc.

When I looked up aphantasia, one of the test was "can you visualize waves hitting the beach" and I was wondering if the Toei logo because I can rewatch that anytime I want, but I can't visualize a generic beach with waves.

Re: Investigators say they've finally identified the Zodiac Killer

#179
post #40

The "investigators" mentioned are The Case Breakers, described (on their website) as "The elite team that's solving our greatest mysteries". No mention of their actual credentials or accomplishments.

their credentials are listed at end of this doc

https://secureservercdn.net/166.62.114.250/g9q.07b.myftpuplo...

Re: Investigators say they've finally identified the Zodiac Killer

#180
post #8

I feel like at least twice a year, there is some story like "Zodiac Killer Finally Identified" or "DB Cooper Finally Found". And behind these stories is usually just one person or group of people who are presenting their pet theory (which highlighted all facts supporting it, and conveniently brushes aside all facts which don't) and have savy media contacts so are able to get media exposure to help promote what's freq…

check out the press release from "The Case Busters" https://secureservercdn.net/166.62.114.250/g9q.07b.myftpuplo...

I honestly found it borderline impossible to read or follow. It's a bunch of disjointed speculation and 'did you know you can get any barcode to equal 666'-levels of rambling.
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