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Facebook is an addiction treadmill most may never be able to quit

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Does anyone else find it hard to personally connect with the well-researched claim that people respond with a fight-or-flight response to ideas that challenge their core beliefs? I've always found ideas to be more interesting the more they challenge my core beliefs. This is true of math and science, but especially true of things like religion. I remember how wonderful it was as a teenager to find challenges to the id…

I grew up in a very religious (technically a cult) setting. Earlier in my life, I believed some of it. I bristled at the suggestion that what I'd been taught might be wrong. I relished in the opportunity to practice "apologetics" and debate non-believers - a concept that appealed to me deeply at the time. And then, I grew up and left the bubble. I was fortunate enough to get a job working with people who held diverse…

When I think about the earlier version of myself and compare him to who I am now, I don't feel a strong sense of disconnection, because although I may have seen the world differently, I remember being very aware that I was still young and didn't have enough experience to hold a fully-formed view of the world. I expected my perspective to change as I got older. I think he would be surprised that he wasn't able to find satisfying answers from people in his community but open to the ideas I have now.

The first thing I remember thinking about is how strange it is to be conscious and unable to fully trust my senses or my mind, wondering what might be beyond my understanding.

Re: Facebook is an addiction treadmill most may never be able to quit

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Are they taking about the same Facebook? I find it utterly boring and only use it for messenger anymore. It used to be addictive, before social media, when it was a social network. You were interacting with real people, you could meet new people, "stalk" people you know IRL, share stuff about yourself or find out stuff about others. You would try to find your crush on FB and check see if you have common acquaintances…

it's not that Facebook is boring or interesting, it's that we're hostages [1]. If I would delete my Facebook, I would lose contact to a whole slew of people I've encountered over the years, who I chat to once in a while over messenger, or I see that they've done something. It's bitter to cut these people out of my life. (here the 'addict' image works again; former addicts often need to cut their drinking/drug buddies…

I don’t think there really is a need to get rid of Facebook completely if you use it for useful things. If you don’t do much there you don’t feed them any information and or contribute to toxic discussions.

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For everyone here who --like me-- has never bought into Facebook, and never gotten hooked on it, congratulations. We are free of the Facebook dopamine dispenser, unlike our poor friends and family.

Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm going to go refresh the HN front page for the 10th time today, and after checking how many upvotes I got on my latest comments, don't mind if I jump back over to reddit for a while, and then back to watching the Larry David clips that YouTube is sending my way.

Re: Facebook is an addiction treadmill most may never be able to quit

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That's absurd. There is no scientific basis that would support your assertion. In fact, increased social media activity leads to a higher chance of suffering from depressive episodes. Meditation has been shown to to actually combat symptoms of depression. If you can't sit still with your own thoughts for 60 seconds without spiraling, then you shouldn't even be remotely near social media.

> That's absurd. There is no scientific basis that would support your assertion. Why are you so confident in that? Have you done your research? I learned that from a licensed psychologist, and know several people who have had severely negative reactions to "mindfulness" training, but it only took 30 seconds to find these two links: https://www.bbc.com/worklife/article/20210202-how-mindfulnes... https://www.newscienti…

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The author who wrote this has tweeted, on average, 1-2x a day for 10 years. https://twitter.com/jaronschneider Twitter has by far become a more egregious platform for society (an information/propagation architecture that exploits how people process information, imo). For me, Facebook is nothing more than a hometown forum. I havent logged on in months.

> Twitter has by far become a more egregious platform for society I'm always surprised that Reddit gets a free pass in these discussions. Reddit has been home to some of the most egregious bad communities and misinformation hives. Their invisible-hand moderation system allows a small number of moderators to completely control the conversation in a subreddit. Banning dissenters and removing comments that don't agree w…

The hate train in the press is for Twitter because that's the cesspool where all the journalists spend their days. They neglect to mention the foul stench of Reddit because they don't generally go there unless it's to do a quick hit piece after a disgruntled powermod gives them a lead to force the admin team to take their own ToS seriously.

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For everyone here who --like me-- has never bought into Facebook, and never gotten hooked on it, congratulations. We are free of the Facebook dopamine dispenser, unlike our poor friends and family. Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm going to go refresh the HN front page for the 10th time today, and after checking how many upvotes I got on my latest comments, don't mind if I jump back over to reddit for a while, and then b…

My girlfriend calls it "Slacker News" because I only come here when I'm slacking off.

Re: Facebook is an addiction treadmill most may never be able to quit

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For everyone here who --like me-- has never bought into Facebook, and never gotten hooked on it, congratulations. We are free of the Facebook dopamine dispenser, unlike our poor friends and family. Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm going to go refresh the HN front page for the 10th time today, and after checking how many upvotes I got on my latest comments, don't mind if I jump back over to reddit for a while, and then b…

Can you imagine if Facebook had like karma? Global GDP would almost immediately take a nosedive!

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Equally true if you replace "Facebook" with "online media". They optimize their articles and headlines for virality, including this one, just as aggressively as FB optimizes its algorithms. They're just two different parts of the same electronic drug-pushing machine.

Give your attention and care and trust to the goals and people in your life that are worthy of it.

Re: Facebook is an addiction treadmill most may never be able to quit

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For everyone here who --like me-- has never bought into Facebook, and never gotten hooked on it, congratulations. We are free of the Facebook dopamine dispenser, unlike our poor friends and family. Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm going to go refresh the HN front page for the 10th time today, and after checking how many upvotes I got on my latest comments, don't mind if I jump back over to reddit for a while, and then b…

My girlfriend calls it "Slacker News" because I only come here when I'm slacking off.

She's a keeper.

Re: Facebook is an addiction treadmill most may never be able to quit

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Are they taking about the same Facebook? I find it utterly boring and only use it for messenger anymore. It used to be addictive, before social media, when it was a social network. You were interacting with real people, you could meet new people, "stalk" people you know IRL, share stuff about yourself or find out stuff about others. You would try to find your crush on FB and check see if you have common acquaintances…

Herein lies the banality: facebook is boring, but if you're bored, it's better than nothing. I don't begrudge folks using it to pass the time on transit to avoid interacting with the public... but I've witnessed quite a few people scrolling endlessly while half-watching tv, half-participating in face to face interactions, etc. I've fallen into that trap myself, during a period of intense burnout -- my ability to focu…

This can be true of many apps and the internet, despite the endless content it has. I don't use Facebook, but I check Instagram or Twitter too often. I do the rounds of the handful of news sites I check, and then check again before there's anything new.

I try to make sure my Books app is front and centre, and I always have something on the go. Doesn't always work though.

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