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Google +1 is failing, miserably

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Re: Google +1 is failing, miserably

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Post by ry0ohki »

ditojim wrote: post #27
Hisoka wrote: post #14

Google doesn't get social... that's all. They demand everyone that applies for a job knows algorithms, but they fail to understand that to nail social, they need to hire people with a different type of intelligence: emotional and psychological. People who know what makes other people tick. We human beings crave attention, impressing others, and thinking we're special. We don't give a damn about placing people in Circ…

If google doesn't get social, who developed Google+? Too clean? I find the page very easy on the eyes and easy to use. Too private? I have put way more info in public (intentionally) on Google+ than Facebook. They make it easy. You are just making general statements and assumptions we have heard all over the internet, meanwhile, Google+ continues to delight its users. I will say: Google finally gets social. It is cal…

Google copied a bunch of technical features from other networks (Facebook mainly) that do get social. But as the parent points out, they don't truly get social because there is a complexity that confuses me let alone my mom in using Google Plus.

Re: Google +1 is failing, miserably

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Post by watty »

[deleted] wrote: post #39
Hisoka wrote: post #14

Google doesn't get social... that's all. They demand everyone that applies for a job knows algorithms, but they fail to understand that to nail social, they need to hire people with a different type of intelligence: emotional and psychological. People who know what makes other people tick. We human beings crave attention, impressing others, and thinking we're special. We don't give a damn about placing people in Circ…

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I'm not sure what your point is. Google HAS changed the world , what more can you ask? In order for them to continue to change the world they need money (they are a business), and some of their products like Google+ and AdWords are more geared towards making money rather than changing the world.

Re: Google +1 is failing, miserably

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Post by [deleted] »

edwardy20 wrote: post #19
wccrawford wrote: post #13

What benefit do I get from +1'ing something? It doesn't go in my stream, it doesn't affect anything that I know of... Why would I do it? It's like they implemented it without have any idea why the customer would use it... They were just copying other people... Badly. And while we're on the topic of sharing, why doesn't Google Reader send shared items to G+ yet? It has sent it to Buzz for quite a long time, and Buzz i…

The benefit is that it (allegedly) improves your search results. If someone in your social circle +1'd something, it affects your search results.

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Re: Google +1 is failing, miserably

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Post by megrimlock »

edwardy20 wrote: post #19
wccrawford wrote: post #13

What benefit do I get from +1'ing something? It doesn't go in my stream, it doesn't affect anything that I know of... Why would I do it? It's like they implemented it without have any idea why the customer would use it... They were just copying other people... Badly. And while we're on the topic of sharing, why doesn't Google Reader send shared items to G+ yet? It has sent it to Buzz for quite a long time, and Buzz i…

The benefit is that it (allegedly) improves your search results. If someone in your social circle +1'd something, it affects your search results.

If that's the case then I wonder if my search results will end up populated solely by witticisms and novelties. In my experience so far +1 seems mainly used as a polite nod or chuckle, because its primary effect is that it's visible to the person who said the thing you approve of. Something like del.icio.us seems much more likely to identify timeless great content worth sharing -- it's a bookmark to come back to rather than a nod of social approval.

If you were designing a search algorithm it does not seem like you want want to give much weight to an embedded easy approval button (reddit, digg, +1, like, etc.) compared to something that requires more investment of someone's time and thought, like making a del.icio.us bookmark. I mean, half the time you have to go try to remember what your password was, then have them send you a password reset mail, then re-login -- now that's a bookmark I care about.

Re: Google +1 is failing, miserably

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Post by clobber »

watty wrote: post #43
[deleted] wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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I'm not sure what your point is. Google HAS changed the world , what more can you ask? In order for them to continue to change the world they need money (they are a business), and some of their products like Google+ and AdWords are more geared towards making money rather than changing the world.

Yeah, I suppose the end justifies the means, right?

Re: Google +1 is failing, miserably

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Post by ZephyrP »

Hisoka wrote: post #14

Google doesn't get social... that's all. They demand everyone that applies for a job knows algorithms, but they fail to understand that to nail social, they need to hire people with a different type of intelligence: emotional and psychological. People who know what makes other people tick. We human beings crave attention, impressing others, and thinking we're special. We don't give a damn about placing people in Circ…

I can already see the arguments of the future pouring in today.

"Well, you see, Google+ just got lucky, to REALLY understand social you have to talk to people who don't know anything about science and technology or icky subjects like math"

I like how this line of reasoning comes up all the time - "I can't spend 15 minutes of my life understanding a basic procedure for sorting lists of things and subsequently got booted before the phone interview, so that must mean I understand social/seo/ux/insert_other_relatively_bullshit_job_or_industry_title and Google doesn't"

Re: Google +1 is failing, miserably

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Post by watty »

clobber wrote: post #46
watty wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not sure what your point is. Google HAS changed the world , what more can you ask? In order for them to continue to change the world they need money (they are a business), and some of their products like Google+ and AdWords are more geared towards making money rather than changing the world.

Yeah, I suppose the end justifies the means, right?

No, they don't need to justify the purpose of Google+.

Re: Google +1 is failing, miserably

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Post by [deleted] »

Hisoka wrote: post #14

Google doesn't get social... that's all. They demand everyone that applies for a job knows algorithms, but they fail to understand that to nail social, they need to hire people with a different type of intelligence: emotional and psychological. People who know what makes other people tick. We human beings crave attention, impressing others, and thinking we're special. We don't give a damn about placing people in Circ…

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Re: Google +1 is failing, miserably

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Hisoka wrote: post #14

Google doesn't get social... that's all. They demand everyone that applies for a job knows algorithms, but they fail to understand that to nail social, they need to hire people with a different type of intelligence: emotional and psychological. People who know what makes other people tick. We human beings crave attention, impressing others, and thinking we're special. We don't give a damn about placing people in Circ…

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