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Investigators say they've finally identified the Zodiac Killer

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Re: Investigators say they've finally identified the Zodiac Killer

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Post by codezero »

ljm wrote: post #20

I imagine the Zodiac Killer was actually more than one person. Of course, this was back in the time when creating attractive codewords for dangerous criminals was the norm. Who's to say that the coded messages sent to newspapers weren't actually meant for other people involved in the activity?

In the fox story, they note that he ran a criminal gang of about 3 people, and recruited young men looking for a father figure, so you might be right.

They paint it as him being the primary one doing the bad things with the others as just lookouts/help w/ hiding evidence.

Re: Investigators say they've finally identified the Zodiac Killer

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Post by SubiculumCode »

I wonder if neuroscience will ever come up with a treatment for serial killers that would cure them of their murderous obsessions.

I believe some serial killers are constantly thinking about murder, while others might have two sides to their personalities that avoid thinking about the other, like a switch.

Re: Investigators say they've finally identified the Zodiac Killer

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Post by aquova »

So two new pieces of evidence are offered up by this article, firstly that Zodiac was identified by several witnesses as having a forehead scar, including being drawn on the famous sketch of him, which matches a scar Poste had at the time. Secondly, some sort of new solution to the cipher is possible by omitting Poste's full name in some way.

As exciting as it would be, I always take these claims about famous cases being solved with a grain of salt. It seems they were also denied DNA evidence from another California case, and bringing up excitement about Zodiac might let them press the issue further. The scar I don't think is definitive proof by any means, but if there is some new explanation to one of the ciphers, I would be very interested in seeing it.

Re: Investigators say they've finally identified the Zodiac Killer

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Post by HPsquared »

ljm wrote: post #20

I imagine the Zodiac Killer was actually more than one person. Of course, this was back in the time when creating attractive codewords for dangerous criminals was the norm. Who's to say that the coded messages sent to newspapers weren't actually meant for other people involved in the activity?

I'm reminded of that scene in Hot Fuzz - "No luck catching them killers then?" .. "It's just the one killer actually!"

Re: Investigators say they've finally identified the Zodiac Killer

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Post by ubermonkey »

fhood wrote: post #25
jmnicolas wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Don't forget Jack The Ripper!

At least the Zodiac killer is recent enough for uncovering their identity to feel sort of feasible. That said, I personally find the idea of it being Ted Cruz so amusing that I see little reason to amend my head-canon, regardless of evidence presented.

THIS.

Re: Investigators say they've finally identified the Zodiac Killer

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Post by Pet_Ant »

lqet wrote: post #26
Ansil849 wrote: post #8

I feel like at least twice a year, there is some story like "Zodiac Killer Finally Identified" or "DB Cooper Finally Found". And behind these stories is usually just one person or group of people who are presenting their pet theory (which highlighted all facts supporting it, and conveniently brushes aside all facts which don't) and have savy media contacts so are able to get media exposure to help promote what's freq…

I find this quite convincing: > In one note, the letters of Poste's full name were removed to reveal an alternate message, [Jen Bucholtz, a former Army counterintelligence agent] told Fox News. > "So you've got to know Gary's full name in order to decipher these anagrams," Bucholtz said. "I just don't think there's any other way anybody would have figured it out."

I want to see the details because there have been some dubious decipherments before that were a real stretch, so I want to see how plausible the ananagram is.

Re: Investigators say they've finally identified the Zodiac Killer

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Post by bogwog »

codazoda wrote: post #30
Ansil849 wrote: post #8

I feel like at least twice a year, there is some story like "Zodiac Killer Finally Identified" or "DB Cooper Finally Found". And behind these stories is usually just one person or group of people who are presenting their pet theory (which highlighted all facts supporting it, and conveniently brushes aside all facts which don't) and have savy media contacts so are able to get media exposure to help promote what's freq…

It seems like even the article contradicts what this group says... > "Our Homicide Cold Case Unit has determined the murder of Cheri Jo Bates in 1966 is not related to the Zodiac killer," the Riverside Police Department's Homicide Cold Case Unit told Fox News.

It seems like the group asked the police department to test the DNA found in the Bates case to confirm it once and for all, but the police department has refused.

So there's probably some internal politics thing going on here.

Re: Investigators say they've finally identified the Zodiac Killer

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Post by fullshark »

lqet wrote: post #26
Ansil849 wrote: post #8

I feel like at least twice a year, there is some story like "Zodiac Killer Finally Identified" or "DB Cooper Finally Found". And behind these stories is usually just one person or group of people who are presenting their pet theory (which highlighted all facts supporting it, and conveniently brushes aside all facts which don't) and have savy media contacts so are able to get media exposure to help promote what's freq…

I find this quite convincing: > In one note, the letters of Poste's full name were removed to reveal an alternate message, [Jen Bucholtz, a former Army counterintelligence agent] told Fox News. > "So you've got to know Gary's full name in order to decipher these anagrams," Bucholtz said. "I just don't think there's any other way anybody would have figured it out."

I don't understand, so they have a deciphered letter from zodiac, they removed the individual letters of Gary's name from the message and got a 2nd message? Is that right?
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