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Re: Twitch source code and customer data has reportedly been leaked

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Not really! If you arbitrarily take $50k as a living wage then it's basically the top 2000 streamers who can make a living on Twitch. Random googling tells me there were approximately 8 million active streamers in September. Again arbitrarily assuming that 7 million of those are 'casual' and doing it for fun that means the percentage of streamers making a living wage is 0.002%. Back of the napkin math but kinda depre…

The thing with Twitch streaming is that you can do it from almost anywhere. So, $50k is maybe a bit high for a living wage. Plus, Twitch is probably just one source of income for many content creators. For many it's not their primary source, but just a side source. YouTube, Patreon, OnlyFans, outside sponsors, or even esports may be where they make most of their money.

> The thing with Twitch streaming is that you can do it from almost anywhere. So, $50k is maybe a bit high for a living wage.

The thing is the power law curve is so strong that if we take the top ten thousand which sets a living wage at approximately $11.5k which is definitely not a living wage in a lot of places people stream from then that only improves things to the top 0.04% (of those trying to make it).

> Plus, Twitch is probably just one source of income for many content creators. For many it's not their primary source, but just a side source. YouTube, Patreon, OnlyFans, outside sponsors, or even esports may be where they make most of their money.

If you read the original comment the gross amount supposedly includes 3rd party revenue.

Re: Twitch source code and customer data has reportedly been leaked

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> An unreleased Steam competitor, codenamed Vapor, from Amazon Game Studios The choosing of the name Vapor is probably no accident when the main competitor is Steam. Just like when IBM launched the "Eclipse foundation" which was arguably based on one of Sun's most prized possessions; Java.

I worked for Nokia for a brief moment in time and the Nokia E71 (or another in that line) was internally codenamed "BeeBee" (like: blackberry) which was comical to me given that the phone looked a lot like a contemporary era blackberry. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nokia_E71 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BlackBerry_Curve

IIRC the whole common HW platform of late model E-series Symbian phones from Nokia was code named BB. Both E61 and E91 call themselves (IIRC) "BB v5.0" in USB descriptors.

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That's a pretty harsh moral/value judgment on how someone chooses to spend their entertainment money. What about comedy clubs? If I buy a ticket to see Dave Chappelle, who is clearly wealthy, am I sucker too? What about paying cover at my local bar because a local band is playing that night? What about buying tickets to a baseball game, to see a bunch of millionaires play a game for a few hours? You are making it see…

If the Dave Chappelle show were free but you chose to donate your money to Dave Chappelle anyway, yes, you're a sucker.

Sure, I guess you could see it that way.

Some people, on the other hand, like to reward others if they enjoy the product/service/performance they provide.

That's the nature of "pay what you can". If money is tight, then don't pay, and don't feel bad about it. But if you have disposable income, and you value the experience, then give what you can as a form of gratitude.

It doesn't need to be said that if everyone took the "it's free so I don't have to pay anything" route, then there would be no show to see.

Re: Twitch source code and customer data has reportedly been leaked

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Am I the only one a bit disappointed by the gross earnings for the top 5 earners given how much the media has ben hyping the money made by e-gamers. For some reason I would have thought they would make more money over 2 years. Top earner was grossing $ 9.6M ($4.8M/yr), 10th was $2.9M($1.4M/yr), at 81 you drop below $1M (500k/yr) on twitch pre-tax revenue. After 81 you drop below the %1M over two years threshold. Actu…

Are you kidding? 4.8M / year is stellar revenue. Much much more than most people make in a lifetime. It's even more interesting that for 50k gross, you have to beat this guy "DEMOLITION_D" at the #4432 place.

Number 1 is Critical Roll. Their website lists 24 employees (many of whom are professional actors), and I’m sure there’s more behind the scenes. Salaries add up quickly.

Re: Twitch source code and customer data has reportedly been leaked

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Hmmm. I thought I had something in Firefox (setting or addon) that didn't send referrers for external sites when you click-opened a link in a new tab. But it doesn't seem like it anymore.

There are a number of settings for this: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Security/Referrer

Thanks. Do you know if some of these break major websites if I move away from the default settings?

Re: Twitch source code and customer data has reportedly been leaked

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>the leak was intended to “foster more disruption and competition in the online video streaming space” because “their community is a disgusting toxic cesspool”. the irony in that it was leaked to 4chan

It would be good to have a streaming service where simps could be called out as such.

Real question - why does it matter to you? If that's how people want to spend their time and money, and it makes them feel good, even if they look foolish, what does it matter to you?

I'm really bad at woodworking, but I do it a lot, and I've spent a crap load of money on it. Does that matter at all to anyone else in the world?

Re: Twitch source code and customer data has reportedly been leaked

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From another site a user commented that it might have proprietary modifications to ffmpeg which is LGPL/GPL (I think?). Would a leak be considered to be distribution, could others legally take these modifications and merge them into the upstream project? I imagine other free software might have modifications too.

No. https://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.en.html#StolenCopy

But the source was not stolen, merely copied

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The revenue in that pastebin have been double counted. The corrected data is here: https://pastebin.com/LjmaPNam

Whoa. Is gross per year or since account creation?! Either way these numbers are insane.

Eh, not always. Critical Roll, #1 on the chart with $4.8M, has 24 credited employees, and who knows how much else backing them up.

It’s an entertainment corporation that just happens to run on Twitch.

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