I'm not a huge Yang fan but any viable third party would be welcomed. Much of the political deadlock and stagnation of the US comes from there being two parties that both try to appeal to the largest groups of people possible.
Andrew Yang Founds the Forward Party
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I have dm'd you proof, please edit your comment upon examining it and enjoy your day :) oh you can't do that here - my mistake -- this is where proof went, but I'd like to keep my reddit username kinda separate from here, hope yall understand.
I don't understand how that is proof of anything? Am I missing something. I'm just seeing an image of a subreddit.
If you go to the subreddit you can see that a moderator posted that. If someones a moderator I'm much more likely to believe the rest of this.
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Edit: Proof accepted. Thank you! Sorry, but I'd like some proof about, really, any of this. For example, that you were a moderator of his official subreddit. I dislike Yang making a third party, but this is a pretty hefty charge.
> created: October 4, 2020 > karma: 258 Yeah, there are plenty of people here with knowledge and experience from surprising fields but I, too, would like some confirmation.
He posted proof here:
https://www.reddit.com/r/YangForPresidentHQ/comments/q2khwm/...
Not sure if it will stay up or not, but it's convinced me.
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I have a high level of skepticism for anyone who is a reddit moderator. This is purely speculative and anecdotal, but the ones I've known are not generally healthy, stable people.
Reddit moderators are a whole breed of their own. Any that I've encountered (mostly for 100k+ subreddits) have lost any shred of empathy they once had.
Like living a thousand lives in parallel as a Walmart cashier. Shudder
Re: Andrew Yang Founds the Forward Party
#425I raised over 400k for Andrew's POTUS run and devoted a year of my life to running his official Reddit (104k subs at peak), then joined a SuperPAC to further his positions after the run. The campaign team was full of fools who squandered almost every good turn received, most campaign workers were paid less than minimum wage, and Andrew eventually stole the pac's name and branding - Humanity Forward - put everyone out…
Good to get confirmation. I had a sense Yang was incompetent, and now I know.
I still like some of his ideas, and I'm thankful he led to more Americans learning about UBI from the presidential race.
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In Brazil a couple parties sprouted up in the past few years: Novo (New) and MBL (Free Brazil Movement). They both position themselves as being "outside" of the left-right spectrum. And of course, it's a marketing trick to capture people who are 'fed up with the system' and don't realize it is an impossible proposition. If you're in government you'll inevitably have to position yourself on all issues, including labou…
I never seen any of them put themselves "outside" of the left-right spectrum. I probably read what they say in a different way. What I see both movements doing is not align enough to either side to position themselves as such. You said it yourself: they need to position themselves on "all issues". If you align yourself 90% to the left or right, you can align with a traditional party. If you split your positions 40-60…
Both parties supported the (terrible) idea of merging the environmental protection and agriculture ministries.
The previous Minister of the Environment came from Novo, and in only 2 years his policies had a disastrous effect on the environment, especially deforestation in the Amazon (he was kicked out of the party but the damage is done).
If you split your positions 50/50, you're in the center :)
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A political party in the USA needs an engaged, interested, reliable representative for every single county election commission, at the very least. The Libertarians don't have that. The Greens never bothered with rural areas. The Perot believers and the Tea Parties had boots enough but no co-ordination.
The green party has such an opportunity in rural areas. I've never understood why they refuse to see any amount of trade-off. Living in a rural area for a majority of my life, I can tell you that (not to make a no-true-Scotsman argument, but) most people are very concerned about the environment. When you are constantly surrounded by reminders that the world is changing, it is impossible to refute that fact. That many…
Doesn't denial of anthropogenic climate change, rather than simply being a semantic issue, undermine support for any attempt at mitigation?
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People seem to take the unity of U.S. for granted. But there is nothing granted about it. The former Spanish colonies from Mexico to Argentina were part of the same empire, speak the same language, derive their legal systems from the same framework, but they shattered into 20 different states and even led wars against one another. The only attempt to build something bigger out of them, Greater Colombia, only lasted f…
> People seem to take the unity of U.S. for granted. But there is nothing granted about it. I agree completely. It’s hard for us to imagine seeing it break up but there is nothing that prevents that except our general desire to live together. I think large democracies with functioning governments are very unstable over long time horizons. The reason I mention functioning is that if the government of a large democracy…
"where it wasn’t you could “go fuck off into the woods” and nobody would bother you"
This is an important point. Due to the progress in instant communication, all politics is now national.
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An entire bloody Civil War was fought over (among other things) whether or not it was possible to break up the USA. The outcome was: States cannot leave. The Constitution does not address secession, but the Supreme Court has consistently interpreted the Constitution to have created a union that is in their words, indestructible,”[1] and ultimately the Civil War seems to have pretty convincingly established the illega…
Definitely interesting but could you explain or expand upon what your point was here?
I guess I was just responding to:
> It’s hard for us to imagine seeing it break up but there is nothing that prevents that except our general desire to live together.
That thing that prevents it is evidently the [EDIT: Supreme Court's interpretation of the] Constitution, so it's not just a matter of losing that general desire to live together. We'd have to at the very least go through the difficult process of amending the Constitution to allow it, in order to actually legally break the union up.
Re: Andrew Yang Founds the Forward Party
#430I raised over 400k for Andrew's POTUS run and devoted a year of my life to running his official Reddit (104k subs at peak), then joined a SuperPAC to further his positions after the run. The campaign team was full of fools who squandered almost every good turn received, most campaign workers were paid less than minimum wage, and Andrew eventually stole the pac's name and branding - Humanity Forward - put everyone out…
> The campaign team was full of fools who squandered almost every good turn received
He also fired them one day before dropping out of the race just to send a message. I don't know that that's great leadership, but to me that shows he had some idea of what was going on at least.
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/02/06/yang-fires-dozens-o...
That's definitely not to undermine the rest of OP's message, just adding a little extra color.