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Twitch source code and customer data has reportedly been leaked

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Re: Twitch source code and customer data has reportedly been leaked

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Post by waynesonfire »

hnick wrote: post #19
GravitasFailure wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In the US, you're fine. The laws that exist barring possession of information largely revolve around copyright, CSAM, or classified information (only relevant if you have a clearance), and none of those really apply here.

Source code is copyrighted surely? You can't share ebooks just because the "source" is open and visible, copyright applies to all creative works.

There is fair use exceptions? I'm no expert here but Google says,

Since copyright law favors encouraging scholarship, research, education, and commentary, a judge is more likely to make a determination of fair use if the defendant's use is noncommercial, educational, scientific, or historical.

Re: Twitch source code and customer data has reportedly been leaked

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Post by Miner49er »

meheleventyone wrote: post #88
pixxel wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Whoa. Is gross per year or since account creation?! Either way these numbers are insane.

Not really! If you arbitrarily take $50k as a living wage then it's basically the top 2000 streamers who can make a living on Twitch. Random googling tells me there were approximately 8 million active streamers in September. Again arbitrarily assuming that 7 million of those are 'casual' and doing it for fun that means the percentage of streamers making a living wage is 0.002%. Back of the napkin math but kinda depre…

The thing with Twitch streaming is that you can do it from almost anywhere. So, $50k is maybe a bit high for a living wage.

Plus, Twitch is probably just one source of income for many content creators. For many it's not their primary source, but just a side source. YouTube, Patreon, OnlyFans, outside sponsors, or even esports may be where they make most of their money.

Re: Twitch source code and customer data has reportedly been leaked

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Post by tinus_hn »

andy_ppp wrote: post #118
astrange wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> PS: Make sure to change your Twitch (and possibly Prime) password. Twitch is already prompting users to do so based on Reddit posts. This is not worth worrying about. If Twitch is making you reset your password, that means you don’t need to hurry because they’ve already locked your account. If your password hash leaked, the important thing isn’t Twitch, it’s every other place you used the same password.

Shouldn’t the hash be salted and useless elsewhere?

In theory, it should. In practice? Who knows.

Re: Twitch source code and customer data has reportedly been leaked

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Post by wokwokwok »

h_anna_h wrote: post #111
fc373745 wrote: post #20

>the leak was intended to “foster more disruption and competition in the online video streaming space” because “their community is a disgusting toxic cesspool”. the irony in that it was leaked to 4chan

Not really, I would go as far as to argue that it is less toxic than reddit, twitter, and even HN.

Mmm... well, if you're received what you consider to be toxic interactions on twitter, reddit and even here, but not on 4chan, have you considered that the common factor is perhaps not that all of these platforms are toxic...

...but that your views are considered problematic by quite a lot of people?

Perhaps that could be some cause for self reflection before you universally declare the entire platform here hostile and toxic.

Re: Twitch source code and customer data has reportedly been leaked

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Post by arthur_sav »

Deukhoofd wrote: post #52
rvz wrote: post #49

> Twitch is aware of the breach, the source said, and it’s believed that the data was obtained as recently as Monday. Does that mean that Twitch has very poor security systems that the entire infrastructure and data of Twitch was breached and it all fell into the hands of this so-called hacker? Compared to the Epik breach weeks ago, this one is a lot worse. I don't know what the point around this breach is for but su…

From what I understand there was a way to access their internal enterprise github instance, which gave them access to all the source code, and a bunch of internal documents and database dumps.

So pretty much everything...

Re: Twitch source code and customer data has reportedly been leaked

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Post by cableshaft »

jollybean wrote: post #87

HN is vastly concerned about privacy and screaming about FB transgression on these issues etc., but the top post here is about disseminating private information of 10's of thousands of people.

You can't put the toothpaste back in the tube. It's out there now, might as well examine what you can learn from it and discuss it.

FB is a business making conscious and deliberate decisions and can be called out on it in part because things like this can happen. I mean they just made such a massive goof that they completely took down their own site, other massive sites they owned, and locked their own employees out of their buildings just two days ago for almost a full day. They can certainly screw up and be victim to a leak like this as well.

Re: Twitch source code and customer data has reportedly been leaked

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Post by csark11 »

andy_ppp wrote: post #118
astrange wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> PS: Make sure to change your Twitch (and possibly Prime) password. Twitch is already prompting users to do so based on Reddit posts. This is not worth worrying about. If Twitch is making you reset your password, that means you don’t need to hurry because they’ve already locked your account. If your password hash leaked, the important thing isn’t Twitch, it’s every other place you used the same password.

Shouldn’t the hash be salted and useless elsewhere?

It can still be cracked

Re: Twitch source code and customer data has reportedly been leaked

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Post by bvm »

swarnie wrote: post #96
TwoNineA wrote: post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I "donated" 75$ to see my favorite band two years ago.

You "purchased" a "service". Without the payment the service wouldn't be accessible

without the subs the streamers wouldn't stream

Re: Twitch source code and customer data has reportedly been leaked

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Post by zalequin »

andy_ppp wrote: post #118
astrange wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> PS: Make sure to change your Twitch (and possibly Prime) password. Twitch is already prompting users to do so based on Reddit posts. This is not worth worrying about. If Twitch is making you reset your password, that means you don’t need to hurry because they’ve already locked your account. If your password hash leaked, the important thing isn’t Twitch, it’s every other place you used the same password.

Shouldn’t the hash be salted and useless elsewhere?

Provided that its hashed with salt / diff methods, sure - but how can you be sure?

Re: Twitch source code and customer data has reportedly been leaked

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Post by QuinnyPig »

wizzwizz4 wrote: post #117
h_anna_h wrote: post #111

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not really, I would go as far as to argue that it is less toxic than reddit, twitter, and even HN.

Parts of it, yes. But the famous parts are horrible ; I don't remember the last time HN ran an international cyberbullying campaign.

I thought it was called “YC Demo Day.”
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