Live data from Hacker News

Clean environment could become U.N. human right

reuters.com

1–10 of 152 posts

Re: Clean environment could become U.N. human right

#3
> Washington also referred to legal concerns as well as worries that recognising new rights could dilute traditional civil and political rights, according to sources following the talks.

Totally makes sense to me really. It's just enables genocidal dictatorships to go full "what about" when called out for their crimes. Yes, we just exterminated a small nation, but look how much U.S. companies pollute!

Re: Clean environment could become U.N. human right

#4

The US and Britain aren't saying no to a clean environment - BP, Chevron, and Exxon are.

Potato, potahto.

(Of course, this is the problem with the traditional synechdoche of a country name for the policy of one particular government at one particular point of time...)

Re: Clean environment could become U.N. human right

#5
If you declare too many things to a "human right" it removes wiggle room for good policy making.

Also, the US already has stronger rules against vehicle pollution than the EU (in terms of pollution that directly damage health like NOx and PM). If it's going to become a "human right" then countries who propose it should be leading it in the first place.

Re: Clean environment could become U.N. human right

#7
post #3

> Washington also referred to legal concerns as well as worries that recognising new rights could dilute traditional civil and political rights, according to sources following the talks. Totally makes sense to me really. It's just enables genocidal dictatorships to go full "what about" when called out for their crimes. Yes, we just exterminated a small nation, but look how much U.S. companies pollute!

I mean this as an honest question: why does that matter? Diplomatically, why would any other country care about a genocidal dictatorships pronouncements of hypocrisy?

That already happens, and it already doesn’t stop sanctions and other consequences, from my limited understanding of geopolitics.

Re: Clean environment could become U.N. human right

#8

China has been denying people human rights daily, what does the UN do to them?

China is a disgusting bully. They’re intentionally rattling people in Taiwan by flying war planes at them to “stress them out”.

The UN is a joke. Something should be done.

Post reply on HN