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Re: Hackers leaked her photos then she was charged for breaking anti-porn laws

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Post by throwaway210222 »

prepend wrote: post #30
throwaway210222 wrote: post #5

Sorry, what am I missing? 1. its illegal to produce pornographic material in Uganda* 2. she produced pornographic material (of herself) 3. it came to light (its always a risk) 4. she has been charged. If you play silly games… * I don't think it should be, but that's their law.

I think the issue is that the law is unjust and shouldn’t exist.

If HN had to discuss every daft, wrong rule in every country that offended our progressive, post-national sentiments, we would never have time to discuss compilers.

And that would be a crime itself.

Re: Hackers leaked her photos then she was charged for breaking anti-porn laws

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Post by FinanceAnon »

mschuster91 wrote: post #21
aspyct wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, it's like going through a bad neighborhood in your expensive car to show off your new expensive watch. Not your fault you got robbed, but there may have been a way to avoid it.

As a citizen, it is reasonable to expect from government to provide you the ability to drive through any part of the country without risking getting robbed. If the government does not meet that expectation, it is time to hold politicians (and, where applicable, the police administration) accountable by voting them out.

How can a government ensure everyone's safety without sacrificing people's privacy or imposing on their lives?

I would like everyone to be and feel safe, but at the same time I wouldn't want a CCTV and a policeman on every corner of the street.

Re: Hackers leaked her photos then she was charged for breaking anti-porn laws

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Post by prepend »

throwaway210222 wrote: post #31
prepend wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think the issue is that the law is unjust and shouldn’t exist.

If HN had to discuss every daft, wrong rule in every country that offended our progressive, post-national sentiments, we would never have time to discuss compilers. And that would be a crime itself.

I don’t think it would be a crime, but definitely boring.

In this situation I think it’s more newsworthy because of the nature of the violation is more unusual since a law against pornography seems to be intended to punish producers but this person isn’t a producer.

Also, it’s an attractive lady, so that usually makes more people want to discuss.

And Uganda has some other particularly bad laws related to sexuality.

Re: Hackers leaked her photos then she was charged for breaking anti-porn laws

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Post by LambdaTrain »

throwaway210222 wrote: post #26
gnorst wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So you believe it's irrelevant and should not be discussed?

No more than a) barman sells beer to 20 year sold in USA (1), b) someone leaks a photo of it, c) the authorities find out, d) the twit gets charged. Hence my question: "What am I missing?" It fits a pretty simple pattern: "someone broke a local law, it leaked, got punished". (1) although legal elsewhere

The issue is that this local law Is flawed, and this flawed law double tapped with criminal activities to hurt female citizens. That is why most of us emphasize with the victim here, but concern less about an underage getting beer from some barman exposed.

Re: Hackers leaked her photos then she was charged for breaking anti-porn laws

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Post by gnorst »

throwaway210222 wrote: post #26
gnorst wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So you believe it's irrelevant and should not be discussed?

No more than a) barman sells beer to 20 year sold in USA (1), b) someone leaks a photo of it, c) the authorities find out, d) the twit gets charged. Hence my question: "What am I missing?" It fits a pretty simple pattern: "someone broke a local law, it leaked, got punished". (1) although legal elsewhere

If a law is considered unfair that's a perfectly fine topic of discussion. You are being obtuse on purpose.

Re: Hackers leaked her photos then she was charged for breaking anti-porn laws

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Post by throwaway210222 »

prepend wrote: post #33
throwaway210222 wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If HN had to discuss every daft, wrong rule in every country that offended our progressive, post-national sentiments, we would never have time to discuss compilers. And that would be a crime itself.

I don’t think it would be a crime, but definitely boring. In this situation I think it’s more newsworthy because of the nature of the violation is more unusual since a law against pornography seems to be intended to punish producers but this person isn’t a producer. Also, it’s an attractive lady, so that usually makes more people want to discuss. And Uganda has some other particularly bad laws related to sexuality.

> punish producers but this person isn’t a producer.

Er, then who made it?

Hint, when a common law document says "…the production of…" it means exactly that; they use "… and/or distribution of…" to capture the derived crime of, well, distributing it.

Like kiddie porn, DIY nuclear weapons, and counterfeit money, some things are a crime to simply make - even in the basement their mother's house.

Adults need to be careful in life.

> Also, it’s an attractive lady

Bingo. A ton of karma later, we finally get somewhere.

HackerNews - always about the consistent application of principles without favour or exception.

Re: Hackers leaked her photos then she was charged for breaking anti-porn laws

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Post by gcr »

throwaway210222 wrote: post #26
gnorst wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So you believe it's irrelevant and should not be discussed?

No more than a) barman sells beer to 20 year sold in USA (1), b) someone leaks a photo of it, c) the authorities find out, d) the twit gets charged. Hence my question: "What am I missing?" It fits a pretty simple pattern: "someone broke a local law, it leaked, got punished". (1) although legal elsewhere

Generally we shouldn't be glad when inhumane laws are enforced, yes?

Even if you supported anti-pornogrophy laws (I know you aren't saying that), another reason why this should be challenged is because it's going to be enforced in gender-biased ways. Primarily women will share a disproportionate burden of scrutiny for this law, particularly so in the case of revenge porn or deepfake.

It's important to advocate for treating women fairly, even when that comes at the cost of cultural insensitivity.

Re: Hackers leaked her photos then she was charged for breaking anti-porn laws

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Post by ctrlc-root »

FinanceAnon wrote: post #32
mschuster91 wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As a citizen, it is reasonable to expect from government to provide you the ability to drive through any part of the country without risking getting robbed. If the government does not meet that expectation, it is time to hold politicians (and, where applicable, the police administration) accountable by voting them out.

How can a government ensure everyone's safety without sacrificing people's privacy or imposing on their lives? I would like everyone to be and feel safe, but at the same time I wouldn't want a CCTV and a policeman on every corner of the street.

This is an underrated comment. Many who believe we have a right to be safe don't understand that it's impossible to achieve without sacrificing other fundamental rights (i.e. privacy, liberty).

Re: Hackers leaked her photos then she was charged for breaking anti-porn laws

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Post by mkr-hn »

BrandoElFollito wrote: post #22

How could have her phone been hacked after creating a profile on a web site?

There was a time when you could root an Android phone to install a custom OS by visiting a website that exploited a vulnerability. It's reasonable to assume that's not the only vulnerability of its kind.

Re: Hackers leaked her photos then she was charged for breaking anti-porn laws

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Post by TheGigaChad »

throwaway210222 wrote: post #5

Sorry, what am I missing? 1. its illegal to produce pornographic material in Uganda* 2. she produced pornographic material (of herself) 3. it came to light (its always a risk) 4. she has been charged. If you play silly games… * I don't think it should be, but that's their law.

Fucking idiot.
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