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Re: Twitch source code and customer data has reportedly been leaked

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Post by TwoNineA »

swarnie wrote: post #74
lemoncookiechip wrote: post #31

Link to the leak: https://boards.4channel.org/g/thread/83691438 Top 10k Streamers by Revenue: https://pastebin.com/LjmaPNam Contains the following data points: 'ad_share_gross', 'sub_share_gross', 'bits_share_gross', 'bits_developer_share_gross', 'bits_extension_share_gross', 'prime_sub_share_gross', 'bit_share_ad_gross', 'fuel_rev_gross', 'bb_rev_gross' (TTS donations, 3rd party revenue like OnlyFans, Patreon, Amazo…

Wagies donating to millionaires is probably the funniest thing i can imagine.

I "donated" 75$ to see my favorite band two years ago.

Re: Twitch source code and customer data has reportedly been leaked

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Post by the_duke »

meheleventyone wrote: post #76
swarnie wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wagies donating to millionaires is probably the funniest thing i can imagine.

Isn't that the basis of the economy with the increasing wealth gap and so on? It's not really materially different to paying Disney millionaires to go watch the latest Marvel movie.

The difference is that Twitch viewers are already consuming the content for free.

Subscribing or donations are completely optional. ( subscriptions get rid of the adds, but I doubt that's a main driver)

Re: Twitch source code and customer data has reportedly been leaked

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Post by kristofferR »

meheleventyone wrote: post #88
pixxel wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Whoa. Is gross per year or since account creation?! Either way these numbers are insane.

Not really! If you arbitrarily take $50k as a living wage then it's basically the top 2000 streamers who can make a living on Twitch. Random googling tells me there were approximately 8 million active streamers in September. Again arbitrarily assuming that 7 million of those are 'casual' and doing it for fun that means the percentage of streamers making a living wage is 0.002%. Back of the napkin math but kinda depre…

Worthy read:

https://www.theverge.com/2018/7/16/17569520/twitch-streamers...

Re: Twitch source code and customer data has reportedly been leaked

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Post by slightwinder »

swarnie wrote: post #74
lemoncookiechip wrote: post #31

Link to the leak: https://boards.4channel.org/g/thread/83691438 Top 10k Streamers by Revenue: https://pastebin.com/LjmaPNam Contains the following data points: 'ad_share_gross', 'sub_share_gross', 'bits_share_gross', 'bits_developer_share_gross', 'bits_extension_share_gross', 'prime_sub_share_gross', 'bit_share_ad_gross', 'fuel_rev_gross', 'bb_rev_gross' (TTS donations, 3rd party revenue like OnlyFans, Patreon, Amazo…

Wagies donating to millionaires is probably the funniest thing i can imagine.

To be fair, the number of millionaires is overall pretty low in numbers. Just some few dozen worldwide. Most top-streamers "only" earn as much as upper middle-class or less. Compared to other sketchy businesses, this seems relative ok. Be aware that those numbers are before taxes and are not including expenses, which can be quite high in the top league.

Re: Twitch source code and customer data has reportedly been leaked

#96

Post by swarnie »

TwoNineA wrote: post #91
swarnie wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wagies donating to millionaires is probably the funniest thing i can imagine.

I "donated" 75$ to see my favorite band two years ago.

You "purchased" a "service".

Without the payment the service wouldn't be accessible

Re: Twitch source code and customer data has reportedly been leaked

#97

Post by FartyMcFarter »

swarnie wrote: post #74
lemoncookiechip wrote: post #31

Link to the leak: https://boards.4channel.org/g/thread/83691438 Top 10k Streamers by Revenue: https://pastebin.com/LjmaPNam Contains the following data points: 'ad_share_gross', 'sub_share_gross', 'bits_share_gross', 'bits_developer_share_gross', 'bits_extension_share_gross', 'prime_sub_share_gross', 'bit_share_ad_gross', 'fuel_rev_gross', 'bb_rev_gross' (TTS donations, 3rd party revenue like OnlyFans, Patreon, Amazo…

Wagies donating to millionaires is probably the funniest thing i can imagine.

I have donated to some chess streamers who make fun + educational content I enjoy. I'm fine if that makes them millionaires or richer than me.

Re: Twitch source code and customer data has reportedly been leaked

#98

Post by meheleventyone »

kristofferR wrote: post #94
meheleventyone wrote: post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not really! If you arbitrarily take $50k as a living wage then it's basically the top 2000 streamers who can make a living on Twitch. Random googling tells me there were approximately 8 million active streamers in September. Again arbitrarily assuming that 7 million of those are 'casual' and doing it for fun that means the percentage of streamers making a living wage is 0.002%. Back of the napkin math but kinda depre…

Worthy read: https://www.theverge.com/2018/7/16/17569520/twitch-streamers...

Right I take that sort of thing into account by snipping off the vast majority of people active streaming. Basically guessing that only the top million people streaming are actually aiming to make a living wage.

Re: Twitch source code and customer data has reportedly been leaked

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Post by jrootabega »

Semaphor wrote: post #37

This is somewhat hilarious. Just 5 days ago I was complaining about Twitch’s new "Only verified users" setting which requires me to give them my phone number. One of the reasons I said I’ll not do that was "hacks, leaks". And now this. Sure, I’ll give you my phone number to add TOTP (Why even?) after I’ve just been shown how secure that data is.

For every conscientious person like you, there are 100 kids, who don't even have fully formed brains, desperate to participate in this system.
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