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Re: Hackers leaked her photos then she was charged for breaking anti-porn laws

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Post by cortic »

watwut wrote: post #3
cybert00th wrote: post #2

Education is key here - we the tech-savvy, need to make more of an effort to educate those less so, on how to remove files from their devices that could prove compromising in the future. Naturally, I understand that what I've just said isn't the whole answer, but I really do think it's a good place to start.

I think the key here would be to change to laws so that victims of non-consensual release of pictures are not charged.

If you are going to change the laws, why not just make pornography legal and use the freed policing to go after illegal hacking of secure devices...

Re: Hackers leaked her photos then she was charged for breaking anti-porn laws

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Post by arp242 »

derlvative wrote: post #9
zxcvbn4038 wrote: post #8

How about stop putting nude and intimate photos on your phone? Just don’t take them, period. It doesn’t matter if you are a celebrity or not, if the photos exist then someday/somehow they are going to get out and once they do you will never be able to pull them back. You might not even have a chance to try if you end up in jail. Even if you live in a country that doesn’t care, one day you might accidentally transport…

Victim blaming.

Indeed, I don't care much for the tone of the previous post at all.

That said, I do think it would be wise to have a good think about what would happen if these photos were distributed – either maliciously or accidentally – and if you're prepared to take this risk. Unfortunately too many people somewhat naïvely don't think about this.

Re: Hackers leaked her photos then she was charged for breaking anti-porn laws

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Post by arp242 »

air7 wrote: post #7

> " In Rwanda, nude photos of 2017 presidential candidate, Diane Rwigara, surfaced on the internet. She said the images had been doctored and were intended to discredit her." This is the crazy part. Why bother "hacking" when deep-faking is such an easy option? At the same time, this allows for plausible deniability even if the photos are real.

One difference is that with a deep-fake the target knows it's not real, and is easier to shrug off, at least for themselves. If the target knows it is real then the feeling of shame and embarrassment would be a lot greater for many people (depending on personality and cultural attitudes).

Re: Hackers leaked her photos then she was charged for breaking anti-porn laws

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Post by arp242 »

watwut wrote: post #3
cybert00th wrote: post #2

Education is key here - we the tech-savvy, need to make more of an effort to educate those less so, on how to remove files from their devices that could prove compromising in the future. Naturally, I understand that what I've just said isn't the whole answer, but I really do think it's a good place to start.

I think the key here would be to change to laws so that victims of non-consensual release of pictures are not charged.

Indeed, but I'm not really holding my breath that Uganda is going to change its laws any time soon. Not much you or I can do about this, so education is the next best thing that can make a meaningful difference.

Re: Hackers leaked her photos then she was charged for breaking anti-porn laws

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Post by DocTomoe »

cortic wrote: post #11
watwut wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think the key here would be to change to laws so that victims of non-consensual release of pictures are not charged.

If you are going to change the laws, why not just make pornography legal and use the freed policing to go after illegal hacking of secure devices...

What does "hacking of secure devices" even mean? A device that can be successfully hacked is by definition not secure.

If you want to tackle this issue, get the pornography legislation done with, prosecute distribution of images without consent (with safeguards not to stifle legitimate journalism) and educate people not to create their own kompromat - a nude picture that has not been made cannot be leaked.

Re: Hackers leaked her photos then she was charged for breaking anti-porn laws

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Post by DocTomoe »

derlvative wrote: post #9
zxcvbn4038 wrote: post #8

How about stop putting nude and intimate photos on your phone? Just don’t take them, period. It doesn’t matter if you are a celebrity or not, if the photos exist then someday/somehow they are going to get out and once they do you will never be able to pull them back. You might not even have a chance to try if you end up in jail. Even if you live in a country that doesn’t care, one day you might accidentally transport…

Victim blaming.

Technically, no. This is someone who engaged in criminal activity and got caught. That her being caught was only possible because of another criminal activity is irrelevant.

This is a lot like a politician being corrupt, but proof of corruption was only distributed after someone broke into his house and stole some files. We would not say that "don't engage in criminal corruption" would be victim blaming, would we?

We can argue about if it is fair to have a law against making nude photos of yourself. We can argue whether we need to prosecute the hacker community more. But we also need to acknowledge that if you don't want to have legal trouble, do not do potentially criminal activities.

Re: Hackers leaked her photos then she was charged for breaking anti-porn laws

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Post by ike77 »

zxcvbn4038 wrote: post #8

How about stop putting nude and intimate photos on your phone? Just don’t take them, period. It doesn’t matter if you are a celebrity or not, if the photos exist then someday/somehow they are going to get out and once they do you will never be able to pull them back. You might not even have a chance to try if you end up in jail. Even if you live in a country that doesn’t care, one day you might accidentally transport…

Maybe you should also stop being nude at home since an image of you could be captured by a satellite or a drone. It's also probably better to use aluminum shower curtain as those cameras could be equipped with thermal imaging.

Your phone is your home. We tech savvy people know it's unfortunately not really the case so we act defensively, but it doesn't mean that we should tolerate this state of affair.

Re: Hackers leaked her photos then she was charged for breaking anti-porn laws

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Post by aspyct »

derlvative wrote: post #9
zxcvbn4038 wrote: post #8

How about stop putting nude and intimate photos on your phone? Just don’t take them, period. It doesn’t matter if you are a celebrity or not, if the photos exist then someday/somehow they are going to get out and once they do you will never be able to pull them back. You might not even have a chance to try if you end up in jail. Even if you live in a country that doesn’t care, one day you might accidentally transport…

Victim blaming.

Well, it's like going through a bad neighborhood in your expensive car to show off your new expensive watch.

Not your fault you got robbed, but there may have been a way to avoid it.

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