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Even luckier, their system handled the load apparently. Hopefully their eng team is proud of it.
Other than the 1:30 hour downtime that happened to a lot of old accounts. I actually think it's genius if they throttled old accounts just to let new people see how good telegram is.
On my laptop instead it was slow until I enabled traffic over ipv6, then it went mostly okay.
I'm actually quite thrilled that end users found a way to communicate in spite of "the everyday solution" being down. That gives me some hope that smaller vendors do stand a chance against incumbents, even in Facebook's space.
I'm not particularly thrilled, given Telegram is based in the United Arab Emirates, its client-server encryption is almost purposefully garbage (they basically rolled their own TLS, and predictably researchers keep finding vulnerabilities in "MTProto"), they don't enable e2ee chats by default, and they don't e2ee group chats at all. Do. Not. Use. Telegram.
Telegram was good enough for people to use during actual protests in authoritarian regimes (Iran: https://dayan.org/content/demonstrations-islamic-republic-te... and Belarus: https://dayan.org/content/demonstrations-islamic-republic-te...).
Meanwhile Signal adds some bullshit cryptocoin to their app, no thank you.
Is there a way to join telegram without giving them my phone number? That just feels like a honeypot/dataleak waiting to happen.
It's a UAE company with a custom encryption protocol, e2ee off by default, and no e2ee for group chat. You're damn right it's a honeypot. Use Signal or Element/Matrix.
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I also had minor issues for an hour or so. Messages not sending or loading for example.
A lot of could also be related to down graded DNS resolver performance due to DDoSing by FB clients.
Why, in conversations about chat apps, does telegram get brought up so frequently as a private alternative? Is it not also mostly proprietary the same as whatsapp/messenger whatever? Is it just a matter of a dislike for facebook?
It's about a few things: - If you have at least one alternative to Facebook installed, you lessen their network effect. People now have a choice how to talk to you. (I have another five messaging systems installed myself, but I will settle for everyone picking just their one favorite alternative to avoid a complete monopoly.) - If you install a Facebook messenger, you know what they're going to do with your metadata.…
No that's false. Didn't you learn anything from the Cambridge Analytica scandal?
How many are left after whatsapp returned ? The same thing happen when Signal took off, followed by 3 days of outage that to date has had no explanation. All those people joined and promptly returned to WhatsApp
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It's about a few things: - If you have at least one alternative to Facebook installed, you lessen their network effect. People now have a choice how to talk to you. (I have another five messaging systems installed myself, but I will settle for everyone picking just their one favorite alternative to avoid a complete monopoly.) - If you install a Facebook messenger, you know what they're going to do with your metadata.…
> - If you install a Facebook messenger, you know what they're going to do with your metadata. No that's false. Didn't you learn anything from the Cambridge Analytica scandal?
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We'll see. The long-term behavior is what's more important. Now those users have the app downloaded, have it set up, and many have tried it out in a real way. All of those are major barriers to adoption, and Telegram has now overcome those barriers. I see that as significant even if it does not result in immediate full adoption of Telegram.
Indeed. And don't forget how well Telegram works compared to the competition. If anything will draw them away on convenience grounds (rather than some moral high ground, which was apparently not convincing enough or these new users would have installed an alternative sooner) it will be Telegram.