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Telegram founder says over 70M new users joined during Facebook outage

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Re: Telegram founder says over 70M new users joined during Facebook outage

#41
I think this says more about the significant amount of control Facebook has with its messaging platforms and the implications of them losing that control for even a few hours, rather than who happens to benefit when Facebook's users are forced to find alternatives. What happens to Facebook can now have ramifications for the entire Web.

It's gotten to the point where Facebook's userbase can act as a massive DDoS network not out of malice, as what the term usually implies, but because of the sheer number of people in the billions who willingly chose to use Facebook.

Re: Telegram founder says over 70M new users joined during Facebook outage

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Offtopic, but "mln" really!? I swear I read "70 min new users", which is quite confusing. Is "70 Million" really too long? I can't say I've seen this one before so I'm reeling a bit. I saw "ml" used recently and almost had a heart attack, so perhaps I'm wondering why now? SI clearly states "M" no? I'd have kept it short and sweet as "70M", just saying. Heh, or perhaps 70 mega-new-users, but I digress.

Two small notes: - The 'mln' abbreviation was probably used to shorten the title so that it would appear complete on search engine results. - I have also seen "MM" used to shorten "million". I believe that "M" means "Molarity" in SI units, and only means millions when prepended to another SI unit abbreviation.

- I do not understand how 'mln' is more SEO than 'M'

- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mole_(unit) states that it's 'mol', but what do I know, I'm not a chemist

Without context '70M' should be assumed unitless, and therefor must be interpreted as a power suffix symbol. Better yet, it falls outside the hex range, making life even better for everyone.

Perhaps, if I'm really trying to be difficult, we could try to interpret 'M' as a modifier on 'new users', but that seems silly when there's no space between 70 and M.

Re: Telegram founder says over 70M new users joined during Facebook outage

#43

Why, in conversations about chat apps, does telegram get brought up so frequently as a private alternative? Is it not also mostly proprietary the same as whatsapp/messenger whatever? Is it just a matter of a dislike for facebook?

It probably is, but it is also more convenient than whatsapp (or any other messenger for that matter) in many ways.

Re: Telegram founder says over 70M new users joined during Facebook outage

#44

Is there a way to join telegram without giving them my phone number? That just feels like a honeypot/dataleak waiting to happen.

You can use a VOIP number or a Google Voice number or Call/SMS forwarding services, you don't have to use your actual number.

Re: Telegram founder says over 70M new users joined during Facebook outage

#45

How many are left after whatsapp returned ? The same thing happen when Signal took off, followed by 3 days of outage that to date has had no explanation. All those people joined and promptly returned to WhatsApp

> The same thing happen when Signal took off, followed by 3 days of outage that to date has had no explanation. Wasn't it that Signal effectively DDoS'd themselves? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25803010

It was never officially acknowledged, just people guessing over git commits

Re: Telegram founder says over 70M new users joined during Facebook outage

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

That would be a no-go for me too... if I had a phone number. These days, it's actually surprisingly hard to get a free email account without having to provide a phone number.

how do you live life without a phone number?

I'd guess "blissfully"

Re: Telegram founder says over 70M new users joined during Facebook outage

#48

I'm actually quite thrilled that end users found a way to communicate in spite of "the everyday solution" being down. That gives me some hope that smaller vendors do stand a chance against incumbents, even in Facebook's space.

Well, not sure how much smaller vendors have a chance when it takes a historic amount of downtime for this to happen.
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