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Facebook Whistleblower Leaks Thousands of Pages of Incriminating Internal Docs

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Re: Facebook Whistleblower Leaks Thousands of Pages of Incriminating Internal Docs

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Post by r00f »

PragmaticPulp wrote: post #2

EDIT: I removed a misquote from this comment after another user pointed out my mistake. There do appear to be a few legitimate concerns worth investigating, but it’s starting to feel like the media has sensed that Facebook is the villain du jour and they’re throwing everything at the wall to see what sticks. These stories seem to dance around the subject of what exactly Facebook did, but instead focus on the existenc…

It was pointed at by PR director, of course she tried to find some good things about FB

Re: Facebook Whistleblower Leaks Thousands of Pages of Incriminating Internal Docs

#12

Post by amznthrwaway »

PragmaticPulp wrote: post #9
swampthinker wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That was a quote from Facebook’s official response to the leaks. The display ad on mobile cuts the article in a really odd way.

> The display ad on mobile cuts the article in a really odd way. Yep. That got me. Thanks for pointing it out. I removed that part of my post.

Thanks for leaving the part of your post where you argue that we should simply _not_ be bothered by these things, that being less bothered will, magically, result in greater response.

You definitely aren’t making a bad faith argument at all.

Re: Facebook Whistleblower Leaks Thousands of Pages of Incriminating Internal Docs

#13

Post by phantom_oracle »

Firstly, it is sad to say that HN is becoming more negative like the rest of the internet. On the front page there are more articles devoted to the ever-evolving shit-show of American-focused news issues. There are far less links to things that I THINK HN is more suited for: like BGP protocol or building your own ham radio.

That aside, my theory about whistleblowing is that it is a counter-intuitive exercise that results in very little at the expense of orgs tightening their security policies. Case in point: Snowden and the NSA

Leaks don't seem to happen after the first one. One or two small bills to "change a law" doesn't fix an endemic problem.

Facebook will continue after this blip. They have enough money to spin the PR in their favor and to grease the hands of their political-dependents there in Washington.

Re: Facebook Whistleblower Leaks Thousands of Pages of Incriminating Internal Docs

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Post by isabelc »

aardvarkr wrote: post #5
PragmaticPulp wrote: post #2

EDIT: I removed a misquote from this comment after another user pointed out my mistake. There do appear to be a few legitimate concerns worth investigating, but it’s starting to feel like the media has sensed that Facebook is the villain du jour and they’re throwing everything at the wall to see what sticks. These stories seem to dance around the subject of what exactly Facebook did, but instead focus on the existenc…

Did you actually read the article or are you just trying to create controversy? That quote comes from a Facebook spokesperson trying to push back against the negative attention. > Facebook issued a lengthy statement from director of policy communications Lena Pietsch titled "Missing Facts from Tonight's 60 Minutes Segment." > She pointed to Facebook's investment to monitor for harmful content; disputed the way Facebo…

From HN guidelines:

>Please don't comment on whether someone read an article. "Did you even read the article?"

Re: Facebook Whistleblower Leaks Thousands of Pages of Incriminating Internal Docs

#15

Post by edoceo »

r00f wrote: post #11
PragmaticPulp wrote: post #2

EDIT: I removed a misquote from this comment after another user pointed out my mistake. There do appear to be a few legitimate concerns worth investigating, but it’s starting to feel like the media has sensed that Facebook is the villain du jour and they’re throwing everything at the wall to see what sticks. These stories seem to dance around the subject of what exactly Facebook did, but instead focus on the existenc…

It was pointed at by PR director, of course she tried to find some good things about FB

And paid handsomely for the trouble.

Re: Facebook Whistleblower Leaks Thousands of Pages of Incriminating Internal Docs

#16

Post by aardvarkr »

isabelc wrote: post #14
aardvarkr wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Did you actually read the article or are you just trying to create controversy? That quote comes from a Facebook spokesperson trying to push back against the negative attention. > Facebook issued a lengthy statement from director of policy communications Lena Pietsch titled "Missing Facts from Tonight's 60 Minutes Segment." > She pointed to Facebook's investment to monitor for harmful content; disputed the way Facebo…

From HN guidelines: > Please don't comment on whether someone read an article. "Did you even read the article?"

Because at the time it was the top comment making speculative claims and taking quotes WILDLY out of context. Accusing the author of trumping up an issue when the OP is quoting the rebuttal from the company is not just misleading but harmful misinformation and should be rightfully called out

Re: Facebook Whistleblower Leaks Thousands of Pages of Incriminating Internal Docs

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Post by PragmaticPulp »

aardvarkr wrote: post #5
PragmaticPulp wrote: post #2

EDIT: I removed a misquote from this comment after another user pointed out my mistake. There do appear to be a few legitimate concerns worth investigating, but it’s starting to feel like the media has sensed that Facebook is the villain du jour and they’re throwing everything at the wall to see what sticks. These stories seem to dance around the subject of what exactly Facebook did, but instead focus on the existenc…

Did you actually read the article or are you just trying to create controversy? That quote comes from a Facebook spokesperson trying to push back against the negative attention. > Facebook issued a lengthy statement from director of policy communications Lena Pietsch titled "Missing Facts from Tonight's 60 Minutes Segment." > She pointed to Facebook's investment to monitor for harmful content; disputed the way Facebo…

> EDIT: And now the OP has edited their post but still stands by their claim that this is a nothingburger, without evidence this time

There was more to my post than the one-line quote that I removed. I also acknowledged the error and thank a commenter for pointing it out below.

Re: Facebook Whistleblower Leaks Thousands of Pages of Incriminating Internal Docs

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Post by tantalor »

phantom_oracle wrote: post #13

Firstly, it is sad to say that HN is becoming more negative like the rest of the internet. On the front page there are more articles devoted to the ever-evolving shit-show of American-focused news issues. There are far less links to things that I THINK HN is more suited for: like BGP protocol or building your own ham radio. That aside, my theory about whistleblowing is that it is a counter-intuitive exercise that res…

> Please don't complain that a submission is inappropriate

> Please don't post comments saying that HN is turning into Reddit

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: Facebook Whistleblower Leaks Thousands of Pages of Incriminating Internal Docs

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Post by cycomanic »

PragmaticPulp wrote: post #2

EDIT: I removed a misquote from this comment after another user pointed out my mistake. There do appear to be a few legitimate concerns worth investigating, but it’s starting to feel like the media has sensed that Facebook is the villain du jour and they’re throwing everything at the wall to see what sticks. These stories seem to dance around the subject of what exactly Facebook did, but instead focus on the existenc…

I have to say it's extremely bad form to retroactively completely reedit your post so that your original statements (which were shown to be wrong) don't show anymore.
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