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Re: Firefox 93

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Post by tgv »

rahoulb wrote: post #131

Slightly off-topic but John Gruber has been writing about the new version of Safari[1] (and it's tabs and how they do or don't work) - and he linked back to some posts of his about Camino, which I'd forgotten about. Camino was the Gecko engine from Firefox in a "proper" Mac UI (unlike Firefox at the time, which was their cross-platform XUL UI). I used to use it as my primary browser and I really liked it. What killed…

I still miss Camino's cmd-1, 2, ... short-cuts for items on the menu bar. What a great UI it had.

Re: Firefox 93

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Post by cptskippy »

maccard wrote: post #158
dtech wrote: post #130

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Their nonprofit is already accepting donations and they are already selling services. I can't be that hard to "sell" a cosmetic Firefox Premium upgrade, although it might not be used enough to be worth it.

Why would you think that funds from firefox premium would only go to development for firefox? Do you think money you spend on Azure is ringfenced for Azure development and isn't ever spent on Microsoft Gaming (for example).

Many charities will accept donations with restrictions (e.g. Only for program X, Only for Research, etc).

Re: Firefox 93

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Post by spansoa »

paulryanrogers wrote: post #146
soperj wrote: post #127

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Could almost just get a patreon together, and then fund a developer from it? Because I think if you put out a job posting, working on firefox independent from Mozilla someone would take you up on it.

There are several Firefox forks supported by donations. LibreWolf and Pale Moon being just two examples. Inertia and network effects won't change quickly though

LibreWolf is awesome. Just make sure to check for updates to it since the updater mechanism is disabled as per the Policies.json file for it

Re: Firefox 93

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Post by ChuckNorris89 »

pmurt7 wrote: post #149
akie wrote: post #17

Give me a way to pay for Firefox, please, and use the proceeds to hire a full development team that can hopefully catch up and overtake Chrome? Please?

Mitchell Baker (Mozilla CEO) makes 3 million a year. It's actually very profitable for a nonprofit organization, isn't it? "On the same period, Firefox marketshare was down 85%. When asked about her salary she stated "I learned that my pay was about an 80% discount to market. Meaning that competitive roles elsewhere were paying about 5 times as much. That's too big a discount to ask people and their families to commi…

"By 2020 her salary had risen to over $3 million, while in the same year the Mozilla Corporation had to lay off approximately 250 employees due to shrinking revenues. Baker blamed this on the Coronavirus pandemic."

You can't make this shit up.

Re: Firefox 93

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Post by asddubs »

jiehong wrote: post #153

To me, one of the biggest news is that is now implemented[0]. [0]: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTML/Element/in...

I wish browser makers gave more attention to implementing form widgets. Natively accessible widgets optimized for the device it's being displayed on? yes please

I've been waiting for some of the more advanced options of for ages. is supported but often a bit clunky in its implementation. Hence people don't use them, hence they don't get improved.

Some sort of drag and drop reordering widget would be really nice as well

Re: Firefox 93

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Post by dblohm7 »

akie wrote: post #17

Give me a way to pay for Firefox, please, and use the proceeds to hire a full development team that can hopefully catch up and overtake Chrome? Please?

Pocket Premium and Mozilla VPN are about the closest you can get to money that goes into the coffers of Mozilla Corporation (instead of the Foundation).

Re: Firefox 93

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Post by jodrellblank »

MrRadar wrote: post #29
bla3 wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I kind of doubt it. JPEG is good enough, and is pervasive. JPEG XL is better, but removing an incumbent file format requires more than just being better. We'll see.

JPEG XL has a party trick where you can losslessly transcode JPEG files to JPEG XL for a ~20% size savings. I imagine that every CDN out there will enable transparent conversion of JPEG to JPEG XL and that will drive adoption just by itself.

Dropbox quietly replaces the insides of JPGs with a better compression system (lossless change) to save their storage costs, and then returns it to normal when the file is read. (It may be they do a JPEG XL transform, for all I can remember about the article which explained it).

I wouldn't be too surprised if every big CDN already does something like that internally as a competitive advantage, and if so then the incentives switch around and there's no benefit publically switching to JPEG XL - when everyone has it, there's no easy way to do better than everyone else.

Re: Firefox 93

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Post by dotancohen »

pmurt7 wrote: post #149
akie wrote: post #17

Give me a way to pay for Firefox, please, and use the proceeds to hire a full development team that can hopefully catch up and overtake Chrome? Please?

Mitchell Baker (Mozilla CEO) makes 3 million a year. It's actually very profitable for a nonprofit organization, isn't it? "On the same period, Firefox marketshare was down 85%. When asked about her salary she stated "I learned that my pay was about an 80% discount to market. Meaning that competitive roles elsewhere were paying about 5 times as much. That's too big a discount to ask people and their families to commi…

Tell us about the CEO previous to her.

Re: Firefox 93

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Post by dblohm7 »

paulryanrogers wrote: post #146
soperj wrote: post #127

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Could almost just get a patreon together, and then fund a developer from it? Because I think if you put out a job posting, working on firefox independent from Mozilla someone would take you up on it.

There are several Firefox forks supported by donations. LibreWolf and Pale Moon being just two examples. Inertia and network effects won't change quickly though

You couldn't pay me to use Pale Moon. They have continuously demonstrated a poor understanding of web browser security.

Take this thread, for example: https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=15168#p109681

Re: Firefox 93

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Post by pessimizer »

cptskippy wrote: post #162
maccard wrote: post #158

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why would you think that funds from firefox premium would only go to development for firefox? Do you think money you spend on Azure is ringfenced for Azure development and isn't ever spent on Microsoft Gaming (for example).

Many charities will accept donations with restrictions (e.g. Only for program X, Only for Research, etc).

But they're not really enforceable because cash is fungible.
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