Just in time manufacturing contributes a lot to this shortage. We rely so much on integrated supply chain logistics, the pandemic clearly brought in to focus the "optimizations" of JIT manufacturing. The lack of local supply pools as buffer is so short sighted.
Lead time for new Intel NIC orders is quoted around 52 weeks
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Re: Lead time for new Intel NIC orders is quoted around 52 weeks
#92Any truth to the rumour that semi truck drive train linkages are unavailable North America wide right now? That could exasperate things quickly.
For what it's worth, my brother in law who drives semis had not heard of that. I think it might be a tall-tale.
Re: Lead time for new Intel NIC orders is quoted around 52 weeks
#93Whatever your opinion is about the lockdowns, there is one thing everyone should be able to agree on; they destabilize just about everything. I'm worried about people going hungry or not being able to heat their home this winter from the ripple effects.
Weird to blame the lockdowns when the real cause was the pandemic. It's not like everyone was going to continually working normally in crowded spaces with people dropping like flies in the hospitals. China especially was hit so incredibly badly in that first wave; it was always gonna go pear-shaped no matter what.
It was the damn lockdowns, the idiotic response to the pandemic, and most importantly the time it went on for. Masks and distancing would've been enough after the first half a year ffs. But to be fair, we deserve it for running such a fragile system.
And they should've just made vaccines mandatory, none of this bullshit soft encouragement while people can't cross borders.
People weren't "dropping like flies", either, especially not those of working age. Less than 0.1% dead worldwide, the vast majority of which were over 65.
Reminds me of that Reddit thread on psychosomatic death where people were sad their relatives suddenly died. Their 80-90 year old relatives. I mean, fuck me, that's a good life lived right there. Another year or two doesn't make much of a difference. But that's unrelated to Covid, it's just the same type of weird fearful thinking.
Re: Lead time for new Intel NIC orders is quoted around 52 weeks
#94Any truth to the rumour that semi truck drive train linkages are unavailable North America wide right now? That could exasperate things quickly.
Modern trucks contain quite a lot of semiconductors though, so I expect they'll be affected in some way.
Re: Lead time for new Intel NIC orders is quoted around 52 weeks
#95Any truth to the rumour that semi truck drive train linkages are unavailable North America wide right now? That could exasperate things quickly.
Do you mean U-joints? Or the major components themselves such as transmission, driveshaft, axle, differential, brake chambers, etc?
Re: Lead time for new Intel NIC orders is quoted around 52 weeks
#96Just in time manufacturing contributes a lot to this shortage. We rely so much on integrated supply chain logistics, the pandemic clearly brought in to focus the "optimizations" of JIT manufacturing. The lack of local supply pools as buffer is so short sighted.
I keep seeing that argument every single time and keep wondering, isn’t there reason to implement JIT? Something like cost benefits outweigh the resilience risks?
It’s not like people start dying on the streets, simply things are getting expensive and hard to get during disturbances.
Are there calculations demonstrating that JIT the risks of optimization are more harmful than helpful in the long run?
Re: Lead time for new Intel NIC orders is quoted around 52 weeks
#97Earlier quoted context omitted.
Weird to blame the lockdowns when the real cause was the pandemic. It's not like everyone was going to continually working normally in crowded spaces with people dropping like flies in the hospitals. China especially was hit so incredibly badly in that first wave; it was always gonna go pear-shaped no matter what.
I'm pretty sure the hardcore red states in the US would have simply soaked up the 0.7% IFR and moved on. That might not have helped with semiconductors, but there would probably still be meat and potatoes.
Sure they'd have soaked up the loss but I strongly doubt a collapsing healthcare system would have resulted in not much "moved on". Delta isn't 0.7 IFR. But even a high IFR doesn't calculate how many hospital/ICU beds are used by infected but not (yet) dead.
Re: Lead time for new Intel NIC orders is quoted around 52 weeks
#98Currently working on a new design for a client, it's quite a pain. Lots of things, even mundane things like connectors and such are out of stock / low stock and usually quite a bit more expensive.
I was looking to buy parallel EEPROMs (DIP) a couple days ago and found they were pretty expensive and mostly unavailable. I was wondering if that's because this type of IC is rather niche these days, or whether it's due to what's called the "chip shortage". If anyone knows or has an educated opinion, please let me know...
In DIP packages? I purchased a few EEPROMS and Flash parts from Digikey recently to fix a old industrial laser. I spent like $5 on the EEproms and something like $2.50 for the equivalent flash parts. I was trying to see if I could migrate the machine to flash as the parts were pin compatible and the laser uses battery backed SRAM for storage. Worked perfectly.
Re: Lead time for new Intel NIC orders is quoted around 52 weeks
#99Just in time manufacturing contributes a lot to this shortage. We rely so much on integrated supply chain logistics, the pandemic clearly brought in to focus the "optimizations" of JIT manufacturing. The lack of local supply pools as buffer is so short sighted.
I keep seeing that argument every single time and keep wondering, isn’t there reason to implement JIT? Something like cost benefits outweigh the resilience risks? It’s not like people start dying on the streets, simply things are getting expensive and hard to get during disturbances. Are there calculations demonstrating that JIT the risks of optimization are more harmful than helpful in the long run?
Well only a decade ago Moore's law ensured that keeping any amount of stock on CPUs/GPU/memory would cost you a lot of money, as that would depreciate fast. JIT was a good idea until it wasn't
Re: Lead time for new Intel NIC orders is quoted around 52 weeks
#100Earlier quoted context omitted.
I keep seeing that argument every single time and keep wondering, isn’t there reason to implement JIT? Something like cost benefits outweigh the resilience risks? It’s not like people start dying on the streets, simply things are getting expensive and hard to get during disturbances. Are there calculations demonstrating that JIT the risks of optimization are more harmful than helpful in the long run?
Well only a decade ago Moore's law ensured that keeping any amount of stock on CPUs/GPU/memory would cost you a lot of money, as that would depreciate fast . JIT was a good idea until it wasn't
The Moore's law argument does not apply to low performance embedded chips which are whatever the engineers want them to be, but must be exactly what the engineers wanted them to be. The chips themselves were often the same between different models of the product, but even though demand for them was a very predictable function of the number of products made, and stable over time (pursuant to the stability of demand for the product), everyone's inventory consisted of whatever was in the box that was being carried from the loading dock to the pick and place machine.