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Google keyword warrants give U.S. government data on search users

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#171
It's time Google notifies every user whose data was searched for these warrants.

The notification should say:

Google has searched your data in response to a legal request from XYZ court. Google searched for the keyword "John Smith" in your Google search history. No matches were found, so no further action was taken. For more information, click HERE.

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#172

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Also, on a technical level, let's not equate a government apparatus that both controls and records anything and everything you do online, with a government asking a private company to identify people who searched the name of a girl who was murdered.

The China surveillance apparatus is based on compulsion of private companies. Where are you drawing the distinction?

I believe it's in degree. The great firewall, a massive centrally controlled effort, vs random judges with asking for narrow data related to specific events.

Cops can search your car if they have a reason to believe you've committed a crime, but if they just start rifling through every car in a public lot someone is getting sued.

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#173
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As sad as it is to admit it, it is not surprising to me. Worse, given the nature of my job, it is almost a given that some of my searches and queries are a part of an undesirable list somewhere. It is a problem. I am not trying to diminish it. But the real problem is that general population has zero to no issue with it. They barely comprehend the scope of what is happening. I am not sure it registers at all. Last tim…

Sir, I would ask your wife if it is OK to share all the usernames and passwords of all websites she has signed up to a stranger. And if she says NO, ask her if she wont share what she know are in her field of view, how can she be sure about the things/data she don't know about knowing big corps put money over your interest at first? Also - https://www.privacytools.io/

The Jewish people of Germany had nothing to hide, until the government passed some new laws.

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#174

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I think I disagree in several different ways. I am personally highly domesticated. I accept that without society there are a lot of things I would not be able to do ( engaging with random strangers on HN come to mind -- in a lot of ways, it is pleasure and a privilege to have time to engage in an intellectual discussion ). But I disagree with your definition that the defining aspect of domestication is surrendering o…

My point is: your wife doesn't feel responsible for your personal safety. Here's the difference between a domesticated person who expects someone else to protect them, i.e., do their violence for them, and someone that feels responsible for their own safety. Domesticated: works for a major corporation in a big city. Has no guns, no means of personally protecting himself, lives in close proximity to strangers, and if…

Domesticated and undomesticated both sound terrible, does your paranoia not allow for an in between state?

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#175

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I think I disagree in several different ways. I am personally highly domesticated. I accept that without society there are a lot of things I would not be able to do ( engaging with random strangers on HN come to mind -- in a lot of ways, it is pleasure and a privilege to have time to engage in an intellectual discussion ). But I disagree with your definition that the defining aspect of domestication is surrendering o…

My point is: your wife doesn't feel responsible for your personal safety. Here's the difference between a domesticated person who expects someone else to protect them, i.e., do their violence for them, and someone that feels responsible for their own safety. Domesticated: works for a major corporation in a big city. Has no guns, no means of personally protecting himself, lives in close proximity to strangers, and if…

In a sense, I am just putting words together. Would you accept a variation of 1984 dystopia? I don't think I am wrong here, but I am willing to go over differences.

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#176

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If you don't think life appointment makes someone politically independent, I have to wonder what possible office would qualify. Divine monarch? Fürher?

Does your ideology radically change over your life? Why would theirs? They judge with their own biases, and are often out of touch with public sentiment. They're just people, and in case of at least one, a rapist with powerful friends. A bigger court elected by the people could help solve that problem. Not lifetime appointments with zero accountability. The Supremes are just another fascist and anti democratic instit…

You have a very peculiar view of language if you think that elected officials are less political than ones that are appointed for life.

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#177

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My point is: your wife doesn't feel responsible for your personal safety. Here's the difference between a domesticated person who expects someone else to protect them, i.e., do their violence for them, and someone that feels responsible for their own safety. Domesticated: works for a major corporation in a big city. Has no guns, no means of personally protecting himself, lives in close proximity to strangers, and if…

Domesticated and undomesticated both sound terrible, does your paranoia not allow for an in between state?

There's probably a "domestication gradient" or something like that. I can sense it when I talk to people. Some people are like little children. They haven't thought about their own safety ever. Others are literal wild men who believe every conspiracy theory out there because they are practically traumatized and are always seeking out potential threats. And yes, there are people in between that worry about their own safety, but also have enough faith in the system to function properly.

I must admit... I have fallen in love with my own term because it really does seem to describe some of the human diversity I've encountered.

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#178

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My point is: your wife doesn't feel responsible for your personal safety. Here's the difference between a domesticated person who expects someone else to protect them, i.e., do their violence for them, and someone that feels responsible for their own safety. Domesticated: works for a major corporation in a big city. Has no guns, no means of personally protecting himself, lives in close proximity to strangers, and if…

In a sense, I am just putting words together. Would you accept a variation of 1984 dystopia? I don't think I am wrong here, but I am willing to go over differences.

Does it alarm you? That's what I really want to know.

Re: Google keyword warrants give U.S. government data on search users

#179

As sad as it is to admit it, it is not surprising to me. Worse, given the nature of my job, it is almost a given that some of my searches and queries are a part of an undesirable list somewhere. It is a problem. I am not trying to diminish it. But the real problem is that general population has zero to no issue with it. They barely comprehend the scope of what is happening. I am not sure it registers at all. Last tim…

> But the real problem is that general population has zero to no issue with it.

It’s really tough to make this case. You can ask someone whether they’re worried about tracking and likely get a “no,” but if you put a “allow app to track” button they’ll also click “no,” and if you ask how they feel about a concrete specific data collection, they’ll often say they don’t like it.

Re: Google keyword warrants give U.S. government data on search users

#180
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> Moving important email to protonmail. https://www.thedailybeast.com/secure-email-provider-protonma... Protonmail literally gave up the personal info of some French activists who were later arrested...

Because France had a treaty with Switzerland, the home country of protonmail, and Switzerland gave Protonmail a legally binding warant to turn over information. Nothing that Protonmail could do unless they themselves wanted to be arrested.

Sounds like a valid complaint about protonmail though, right? They choose their jurisdiction, seems like they may have chosen poorly.
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