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Lead time for new Intel NIC orders is quoted around 52 weeks

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Re: Lead time for new Intel NIC orders is quoted around 52 weeks

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Post by CyanLite2 »

skocznymroczny wrote: post #55
typon wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why is blatant misinformation and conspiracy theory allowed on HN?

HN used to attract people who value personal freedom and freedom of speech. Seems like not anymore, like other online societies it fell victim to 'curb liberties for greater good' philosophy. Unfortunately for them, almost every single authoritarian or even totalitarian system uses the same excuse.

Informed people care about freedoms as much as you do. But all the conspiracy theory junk about ivermectin, lizard people, and microchipping in the vaccine is the modern day equivalent of yelling 'fire!' in a crowded theater.

Re: Lead time for new Intel NIC orders is quoted around 52 weeks

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Post by stickfigure »

CydeWeys wrote: post #5
brink wrote: post #2

Whatever your opinion is about the lockdowns, there is one thing everyone should be able to agree on; they destabilize just about everything. I'm worried about people going hungry or not being able to heat their home this winter from the ripple effects.

Weird to blame the lockdowns when the real cause was the pandemic. It's not like everyone was going to continually working normally in crowded spaces with people dropping like flies in the hospitals. China especially was hit so incredibly badly in that first wave; it was always gonna go pear-shaped no matter what.

I'm pretty sure the hardcore red states in the US would have simply soaked up the 0.7% IFR and moved on. That might not have helped with semiconductors, but there would probably still be meat and potatoes.

Re: Lead time for new Intel NIC orders is quoted around 52 weeks

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Post by joezydeco »

qiqitori wrote: post #9
formerly_proven wrote: post #4

Currently working on a new design for a client, it's quite a pain. Lots of things, even mundane things like connectors and such are out of stock / low stock and usually quite a bit more expensive.

I was looking to buy parallel EEPROMs (DIP) a couple days ago and found they were pretty expensive and mostly unavailable. I was wondering if that's because this type of IC is rather niche these days, or whether it's due to what's called the "chip shortage". If anyone knows or has an educated opinion, please let me know...

It's a niche part and you shouldn't be surprised if it's discontinued soon. Think about migrating your design.

I'm starting to see end-of-life notices for a lot of parts that I wouldn't normally see at their age, but if they're low runners that would totally make sense.

If you see lead times longer than a year, that's your early warning.

Re: Lead time for new Intel NIC orders is quoted around 52 weeks

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Post by unixhero »

whatshisface wrote: post #64

Smart business people will take this as a lesson about the dangers of zero-inventory manufacturing. Unscrupulous business people will continue running the business at high risk, knowing that they will probably be gone by the time a problem arises. Very smart leaders will use this as an opportunity to think about how to stop their companies from forgetting someone's involvement with a project or process during interna…

This is also driven by investor expectations. Not "business people".

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Post by whatshisface »

unixhero wrote: post #75
whatshisface wrote: post #64

Smart business people will take this as a lesson about the dangers of zero-inventory manufacturing. Unscrupulous business people will continue running the business at high risk, knowing that they will probably be gone by the time a problem arises. Very smart leaders will use this as an opportunity to think about how to stop their companies from forgetting someone's involvement with a project or process during interna…

This is also driven by investor expectations. Not "business people".

A lot of this goes on inside departments where investors don't have any substantial insight.

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Post by birdyrooster »

PragmaticPulp wrote: post #37
bgorman wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Demand for electronics being up is directly correlated to lockdowns. PCs had been a declining sector for years before covid lockdowns.

Demand for cars is way up, too, which isn’t expected in lockdown conditions.

Sure it is, you couldn’t (or still can’t) safely carpool or take public transit so you need a personal vehicle. Simultaneously people are ordering record amounts of food delivery causing a surge in car based employment greater than was seen with Uber and Lyft of yore.

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Post by howmayiannoyyou »

brink wrote: post #2

Whatever your opinion is about the lockdowns, there is one thing everyone should be able to agree on; they destabilize just about everything. I'm worried about people going hungry or not being able to heat their home this winter from the ripple effects.

Lockdowns are not the whole story, just a major contributing factor. Other factors:

- China energy shortages forcing rolling blackouts.

- Long standing under investment in older chip fab manufacturing (eg. auto industry).

- Long standing under investment in US port infrastructure, causing unprecedented shipping backlogs.

- Copper foil shortage due to over reliance on Chinese sources.

- Covid negative impact on childcare, both informal and formal, requiring formerly working parents to now opt for unemployment or lower incomes.

Re: Lead time for new Intel NIC orders is quoted around 52 weeks

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Post by stagger87 »

jeffbee wrote: post #35

What was the old lead time? I guess it was less than a year but the article doesn’t mention it.

Parts have been going from no lead time to simply not available. The large lead times are probably a guess, as many parts are going on hard allocation and you have no idea who is going to squeeze in before you. Some IC manufacturers are saying things like "consider other parts for your design" due to these circumstances.
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