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Re: Lead time for new Intel NIC orders is quoted around 52 weeks

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Post by Symbiote » Tue, Oct 05, 2021, 2:45 PM UTC

tibbydudeza wrote: post #31

antiSingularity wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They also released vidoes of people literally dropping in the street "with Covid".

Or scenes where a white van stops and couple of folks in Hazmat suits jumps out and then proceed to drag infected people away.

Not quite "dragged", but this happened to a friend of mine.

Her country was on the safe (no isolation) list when her plane landed in China, and she then boarded a long distance, overnight train.

Her country then announced their first positive case.

When she left the train, two men with hazmat suits and a van were on the platform to meet her. They took her to an isolation hotel room with an alarmed door. (Not an actual lock, as I understand, so she could leave if there were a fire. But an alarmed door.)

Re: Lead time for new Intel NIC orders is quoted around 52 weeks

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Post by symlinkk » Tue, Oct 05, 2021, 2:45 PM UTC

tibbydudeza wrote: post #29

CydeWeys wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Weird to blame the lockdowns when the real cause was the pandemic. It's not like everyone was going to continually working normally in crowded spaces with people dropping like flies in the hospitals. China especially was hit so incredibly badly in that first wave; it was always gonna go pear-shaped no matter what.

When I saw the time lapsed footage of a emergency hospital being built in Wuhan in only 10 days I turned to the wife and said there is some big $hit coming. Three weeks later we had 4 cases from Italian tourists - it all went pear shaped from there - 2.91M infected and 87,819 deaths.

China was also welding people in their homes, I don’t think they should be used as a barometer of how serious something is

Re: Lead time for new Intel NIC orders is quoted around 52 weeks

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Post by heisenbit » Tue, Oct 05, 2021, 2:46 PM UTC

brink wrote: post #2

Whatever your opinion is about the lockdowns, there is one thing everyone should be able to agree on; they destabilize just about everything. I'm worried about people going hungry or not being able to heat their home this winter from the ripple effects.

We were running an over-optimized system on fumes. Such is the nature of long periods of high stability with no oversight governance enforcing robustness. Any disruption would have had self amplifying and propagating consequences.

Re: Lead time for new Intel NIC orders is quoted around 52 weeks

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Post by norenh » Tue, Oct 05, 2021, 2:47 PM UTC

Factorium wrote: post #24

CydeWeys wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Weird to blame the lockdowns when the real cause was the pandemic. It's not like everyone was going to continually working normally in crowded spaces with people dropping like flies in the hospitals. China especially was hit so incredibly badly in that first wave; it was always gonna go pear-shaped no matter what.

Life continued as normal in Sweden, Russia, Belarus... the pandemic 'response' was driven by the media and politicians. If there is surge of deaths in nursing homes (typically 50% of COVID deaths), it has no impact on the rest of the economy. Many of those same politicians later benefitted to tune of millions of dollars from advance knowledge of federal bank intervention in markets. If there was no lockdown, this opp…

>Life continued as normal in Sweden...

Sweden had less formal lockdowns, but recommendations that was largely followed . Also limited opening hours for restaurants and closed events with live audience. Most workers stayed at home, traveling went down A LOT and people could not visit care homes etc. If you compare the effect on society it was largely the same as the rest of Scandinavia that did have slightly more formal lockdowns.

Lots of companies (restaurants, cultural events like concerts, theatre etc.) had real economical issues and a lot of people became unemployed. Could be worse, but still it is misleading to say life continued as normal. A quick google show that unemployment in Sweden doubled during the pandemic and that is largely attributed to the measures that took place as a response to the pandemic.

Re: Lead time for new Intel NIC orders is quoted around 52 weeks

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Post by switch007 » Tue, Oct 05, 2021, 2:48 PM UTC

PragmaticPulp wrote: post #37

bgorman wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Demand for electronics being up is directly correlated to lockdowns. PCs had been a declining sector for years before covid lockdowns.

Demand for cars is way up, too, which isn’t expected in lockdown conditions.

Really? With governments saying avoid public transport and encouraging people to work remotely which caused a huge number of people to move to the countryside where public transport is largely non existent therefore requiring cars.

Re: Lead time for new Intel NIC orders is quoted around 52 weeks

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Post by hcknwscommenter » Tue, Oct 05, 2021, 2:48 PM UTC

Factorium wrote: post #24

CydeWeys wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Weird to blame the lockdowns when the real cause was the pandemic. It's not like everyone was going to continually working normally in crowded spaces with people dropping like flies in the hospitals. China especially was hit so incredibly badly in that first wave; it was always gonna go pear-shaped no matter what.

Life continued as normal in Sweden, Russia, Belarus... the pandemic 'response' was driven by the media and politicians. If there is surge of deaths in nursing homes (typically 50% of COVID deaths), it has no impact on the rest of the economy. Many of those same politicians later benefitted to tune of millions of dollars from advance knowledge of federal bank intervention in markets. If there was no lockdown, this opp…

Your last paragraph demonstrates a number of profound and fundamental misunderstandings.

First, herd immunity does not benefit from more bodies per se. You are portraying it as some sort of wall, where taking members out of the wall reduces the effectiveness. It is not like that at all. The proportion of previously exposed individuals required for herd immunity effects goes down as the frequency of potential spreading interactions goes down.

Second, there is no correlation between lockdown and lower vitamin D.

Third, we have clear data showing a profound reduction in the spread of other respiratory viruses (RSV, rhino, influenza). So, we have had many fewer deaths during lockdown that in previous years. A win, and yet you characterize it as a loss. Odd.

Re: Lead time for new Intel NIC orders is quoted around 52 weeks

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Post by fidesomnes » Tue, Oct 05, 2021, 2:48 PM UTC

tibbydudeza wrote: post #31

antiSingularity wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They also released vidoes of people literally dropping in the street "with Covid".

Or scenes where a white van stops and couple of folks in Hazmat suits jumps out and then proceed to drag infected people away.

> infected supposedly. snatch and grab is never done for anyones safety.

Re: Lead time for new Intel NIC orders is quoted around 52 weeks

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Post by stadium » Tue, Oct 05, 2021, 2:49 PM UTC

Factorium wrote: post #24

CydeWeys wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Weird to blame the lockdowns when the real cause was the pandemic. It's not like everyone was going to continually working normally in crowded spaces with people dropping like flies in the hospitals. China especially was hit so incredibly badly in that first wave; it was always gonna go pear-shaped no matter what.

Life continued as normal in Sweden, Russia, Belarus... the pandemic 'response' was driven by the media and politicians. If there is surge of deaths in nursing homes (typically 50% of COVID deaths), it has no impact on the rest of the economy. Many of those same politicians later benefitted to tune of millions of dollars from advance knowledge of federal bank intervention in markets. If there was no lockdown, this opp…

> Its likely that lockdowns worsen COVID

Please stop spreading conspiracy theories as fact. It is literally killing people.

Re: Lead time for new Intel NIC orders is quoted around 52 weeks

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Post by typon » Tue, Oct 05, 2021, 2:51 PM UTC

Factorium wrote: post #24

CydeWeys wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Weird to blame the lockdowns when the real cause was the pandemic. It's not like everyone was going to continually working normally in crowded spaces with people dropping like flies in the hospitals. China especially was hit so incredibly badly in that first wave; it was always gonna go pear-shaped no matter what.

Life continued as normal in Sweden, Russia, Belarus... the pandemic 'response' was driven by the media and politicians. If there is surge of deaths in nursing homes (typically 50% of COVID deaths), it has no impact on the rest of the economy. Many of those same politicians later benefitted to tune of millions of dollars from advance knowledge of federal bank intervention in markets. If there was no lockdown, this opp…

Why is blatant misinformation and conspiracy theory allowed on HN?

Re: Lead time for new Intel NIC orders is quoted around 52 weeks

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Post by anoonmoose » Tue, Oct 05, 2021, 2:52 PM UTC

Factorium wrote: post #24

CydeWeys wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Weird to blame the lockdowns when the real cause was the pandemic. It's not like everyone was going to continually working normally in crowded spaces with people dropping like flies in the hospitals. China especially was hit so incredibly badly in that first wave; it was always gonna go pear-shaped no matter what.

Life continued as normal in Sweden, Russia, Belarus... the pandemic 'response' was driven by the media and politicians. If there is surge of deaths in nursing homes (typically 50% of COVID deaths), it has no impact on the rest of the economy. Many of those same politicians later benefitted to tune of millions of dollars from advance knowledge of federal bank intervention in markets. If there was no lockdown, this opp…

I feel it would be irresponsible of me not to point out how extreme your claims in the last paragraph are and that you've provided nothing to back that up even. As even the weakest rebuttal, I'd lke point out that by all metrics I've seen standard influenza infections and deaths were also down due to lockdown/COVID prevention methods which I think is a helpful indicator.

Edit: by the time I clicked submit, multiple people had also responded to this, which makes me feel better about HN today.