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Re: Firefox 93

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Post by kongin »

dralley wrote: post #60
kongin wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Edge is a chrome skin. They don't have engineers working on a browser, they have engineers working on a _theme_.

1. It doesn't really matter. Most users don't even know what a browser engine is much less care, so whether it's a fully independent browser or not is irrelevant to their adoption in the marketplace. 2. The story was no different even when they were still using Trident as their engine.

Having two large user bases using different engines meant that standards mattered.

When 85% of people use the same browser stack we're back in the bad old days of IE6.

Re: Firefox 93

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Post by HMH »

JonathanBeuys wrote: post #49

I am currently trying Ubuntu for the first time in a long while and it comes with Firefox as the default browser. My problem is that Firefox has a "snapping" scroll behavior that I find very annoying. When I move my fingers on the touchpad of my laptop, that does not immediately move the page. Instead, it waits until I moved a certain distance and then moves in one big swoosh. Starting Firefox from the command line l…

I have this set in /etc/environment and it's working fine for me.

Re: Firefox 93

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Post by JonathanBeuys »

chmod775 wrote: post #63
JonathanBeuys wrote: post #49

I am currently trying Ubuntu for the first time in a long while and it comes with Firefox as the default browser. My problem is that Firefox has a "snapping" scroll behavior that I find very annoying. When I move my fingers on the touchpad of my laptop, that does not immediately move the page. Instead, it waits until I moved a certain distance and then moves in one big swoosh. Starting Firefox from the command line l…

You can put export MOZ_USE_XINPUT2=1 into your ~/.bash_profile or ~/.bashrc (edit: or just ~/.profile under ubuntu). You'll have to logout/login to "apply" that. Alternatively you can edit the .desktop file of Firefox, but that might not catch all the ways in which firefox may be launched.

Hmm.. I tried to execute "export MOZ_USE_XINPUT2=1" in the terminal and then start FF from the GUI and it did not have an impact.

So I guess it would also not work in .bashrc. But not sure.

Re: Firefox 93

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Post by matsemann »

kongin wrote: post #62
slig wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This chart is very telling [1] from [2]. [1]: https://calpaterson.com/assets/mozilla-boss-pay.svg [2]: https://calpaterson.com/mozilla.html

Yeah, I'd comment more, but the inevitable flagging that's coming up is really killing my interest in anything but one line quips.

You got it backwards. It's the hostile one line quips making you get flagged.

Re: Firefox 93

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Post by falcolas »

noteboom wrote: post #33
Spivak wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah how dare Mozilla force sites to pay for TLS certificates! It’s a racket I tell you! If they’re going to be required in order to be on the internet they should be free Mozilla: Okay, done.

Time is money, I'm sure some users visiting websites that don't have the luxury of being maintained by multinational corporations will experience issues as a result of this change. TLS certificates are also not trivial to set up or renew if you require a wildcard certificate.

> Time is money

Let's Encrypt has made installing a cert a 5 minute process, including setting up automated renewals.

Even at lawyer rates ($200/hour), that's still less than a one time $20 "cost".

Re: Firefox 93

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Post by JonathanBeuys »

kadoban wrote: post #58
JonathanBeuys wrote: post #49

I am currently trying Ubuntu for the first time in a long while and it comes with Firefox as the default browser. My problem is that Firefox has a "snapping" scroll behavior that I find very annoying. When I move my fingers on the touchpad of my laptop, that does not immediately move the page. Instead, it waits until I moved a certain distance and then moves in one big swoosh. Starting Firefox from the command line l…

You can just set that environment variable permanently, I believe usually in your ~/.profile file or one of those. Let me know if you need more info.

Isn't ~/.profile also executed every time I start a shell?

Re: Firefox 93

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Post by jve »

kongin wrote: post #43
BitwiseFool wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>"hire a full development team that can hopefully catch up and overtake Chrome?" In an ideal world the best browser would win but marketshare doesn't work that way. Microsoft has full time development teams working on Edge and it is just barely chipping away at chrome's dominance. And, in no small part because they pester Windows users to make Edge the default at every opportunity.

Edge is a chrome skin. They don't have engineers working on a browser, they have engineers working on a _theme_.

They actually contribute to chromium. Almost a year old tweet: https://twitter.com/ericlaw/status/1329200077517295618?ref_s...

Re: Firefox 93

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Post by JonathanBeuys »

HMH wrote: post #82
JonathanBeuys wrote: post #49

I am currently trying Ubuntu for the first time in a long while and it comes with Firefox as the default browser. My problem is that Firefox has a "snapping" scroll behavior that I find very annoying. When I move my fingers on the touchpad of my laptop, that does not immediately move the page. Instead, it waits until I moved a certain distance and then moves in one big swoosh. Starting Firefox from the command line l…

I have this set in /etc/environment and it's working fine for me.

Oh wow, I never heard about /etc/environment. At which occasions does it get executed?

Re: Firefox 93

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Post by handrous »

rado wrote: post #19

Plot twist: FF used to be very slow, but 93 is now as fast as Chrome on Mac, leaving the wretched Safari 15 in the dust. (Testing Google Street View)

That's cool, but I'm on an M1. Everything is fast.

How's it do on battery life? How often does it turn out to be the culprit behind system-wide performance problems, if you've just got it sitting open in the background while you're doing other stuff?

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