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#41
I dunno why y'all are getting so heated. Seems to me like they shared some interesting info and made a pretty reasonable guess about what happened

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#42

I don't think the data supports their conclusion. > the Facebook outage started at 15:24 UTC. > Between 21:00 UTC and midnight, we saw roughly a 2.6x increase in the number of Pull Requests being merged. > midnight UTC aligns with 17:00 Pacific time (where many Haystack customers are located). So even according to their own metrics, there were 5 and a half hours where the issue was (at least partially) occuring but t…

The problem i have with the article is it doesn't go into "which" PR's. If this is about PR's at Facebook then it's one thing, but if it's about PR's everywhere then I really don't see the point of this article except to talk about their product.

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#43

The mental drain of the world exerted by social media is completely enormous. It explains so much about the dystopia we find ourselves in. What happened to the talks of breaking up Big Tech? It seems to have disappeared.

I've always thought when I see one of these numbers about how people are collectively dumping millions of hours into Youtube or WoW or whatever else every day, imagine if that'd be spent on something genuinely social instead, learning, creating something, contributing something to the commons, volunteer an hour at the soup kitchen, clean the local park, however trivial. A billion hours of that every day instead of re…

You say this, but here you are wasting time on HN.

Please stop with this appeal to get others to be constantly productive; it is not helpful advice, and being unproductive is crucial to helping the brain relax.

I’m not endorsing toxic social media, but I’m debating your overall gist nonetheless.

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The mental drain of the world exerted by social media is completely enormous. It explains so much about the dystopia we find ourselves in. What happened to the talks of breaking up Big Tech? It seems to have disappeared.

I've always thought when I see one of these numbers about how people are collectively dumping millions of hours into Youtube or WoW or whatever else every day, imagine if that'd be spent on something genuinely social instead, learning, creating something, contributing something to the commons, volunteer an hour at the soup kitchen, clean the local park, however trivial. A billion hours of that every day instead of re…

+1 to that. A 15 minute walk around the block, or through the park, picking up any litter along the way, times a billion, means you won't see litter, and you won't have to pay quite as many sanitation workers.

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#45

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A dystopia with fewer people in poverty than ever, and the ability to communicate instantly with people around the globe, while we wander to the supermarket and buy plentiful food sourced from all over the world at prices normal people can afford, to go home and sit in climate controlled homes and entertain ourselves with endless games and have our housework eased by machines that wash our clothes and dishes with wat…

A dystopia where the White House was stormed and 703,000 Americans are dead from Covid while 56% of the population is fully vaccinated. A dystopia where the world seems more divided than ever, and I attribute a very large portion of the blame on the tech giants that are profiting from human misery.

The world is more connected than ever before. White house getting stormed by unarmed protestors is much better world then presidents getting shot (and dying) like what happened in the 80s, 60s.

Global warning may feel hopeless but compare that to the threat of ozone layer disappearing or acid rain or..

Covid has kill 700+ h1n1 killed 575+. wwi+ii millions

People are so much safer and less likely to die but we have so much more media so we invent things to be scared of because people want you to pay attention to their ads.

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#46

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A dystopia with fewer people in poverty than ever, and the ability to communicate instantly with people around the globe, while we wander to the supermarket and buy plentiful food sourced from all over the world at prices normal people can afford, to go home and sit in climate controlled homes and entertain ourselves with endless games and have our housework eased by machines that wash our clothes and dishes with wat…

your framing is wrong at multiple levels. i) facebook has not contributed an iota to the consumerist utopia you seem to cherish. it is the result of a long period of scientific / technological development. communicating instantly with people around the globe can be done perfectly well with, e.g. Signal. you do not need the apparatus of surveillance capitalism to deliver it. ii) said consumerist utopia is neither avai…

Facebook hasn't contributed one iota? Facebook has contributed an immense amount to the developer community, small businesses and literally everyone else.

Free communication with almost any human on the planet: check. Advertise alongside industry incumbents with any ad budget: check. Oh yeah and React, React Native, GraphQL, pyTorch, and a whole lot more.

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#47

They counted pull requests merged during a few hours while Facebook was down. I’m guessing the number of PRs merged during any 5-hour window is extremely volatile, so it’s not surprising that they found it different than average when sampled randomly. This reads like someone wanted to capitalize on the Facebook outage to get some traffic, so they threw their developers under the bus for some clickbait. I wonder how g…

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#48

A lot of assumptions about causality based on weak data here. This company is just trying to capitalize on what is perceives as an inbound marketing opportunity. Next.

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The mental drain of the world exerted by social media is completely enormous. It explains so much about the dystopia we find ourselves in. What happened to the talks of breaking up Big Tech? It seems to have disappeared.

> What happened to the talks of breaking up Big Tech?

The reason is as old as time - the administration changed.

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#50
post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've always thought when I see one of these numbers about how people are collectively dumping millions of hours into Youtube or WoW or whatever else every day, imagine if that'd be spent on something genuinely social instead, learning, creating something, contributing something to the commons, volunteer an hour at the soup kitchen, clean the local park, however trivial. A billion hours of that every day instead of re…

You say this, but here you are wasting time on HN. Please stop with this appeal to get others to be constantly productive; it is not helpful advice, and being unproductive is crucial to helping the brain relax. I’m not endorsing toxic social media, but I’m debating your overall gist nonetheless.

read carefully, I suggested people ought to be more social in a genuine sense of the term and not more 'productive' in some superficial corporate sense, the examples i gave should have made that clear.

Secondly I surely do waste too much time on social media, I don't see how that should stop me from appealing to others as well as myself though, consider me included in the criticism, I'm not a saint. However this holier than thou silencing tactic of thinking we can't criticize culture just because we're also part of perpetuating it has always been silly.

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