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Re: Firefox 93

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Post by slig »

kongin wrote: post #41
akie wrote: post #17

Give me a way to pay for Firefox, please, and use the proceeds to hire a full development team that can hopefully catch up and overtake Chrome? Please?

> Give me a way to pay for Firefox, please, and use the proceeds to hire a full development team that can hopefully catch up and overtake Chrome? Please? Best we can do is spending the money on women who code outreach. Not sure what that has to do with web browsers, but I'm sure the CEO who managed to lose 80% market share knows better than me.

This chart is very telling [1] from [2].

[1]: https://calpaterson.com/assets/mozilla-boss-pay.svg [2]: https://calpaterson.com/mozilla.html

Re: Firefox 93

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Post by makeworld »

JonathanBeuys wrote: post #49

I am currently trying Ubuntu for the first time in a long while and it comes with Firefox as the default browser. My problem is that Firefox has a "snapping" scroll behavior that I find very annoying. When I move my fingers on the touchpad of my laptop, that does not immediately move the page. Instead, it waits until I moved a certain distance and then moves in one big swoosh. Starting Firefox from the command line l…

You can make it "permanent" by editing the .desktop file your Firefox is launching from when you click it in Ubuntu. You can change the Exec= line to be Exec=MOZ_USE_XINPUT2=1 firefox, or maybe Exec=env MOZ_USE_XINPUT2=1 firefox

Re: Firefox 93

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Post by diffeomorphism »

Nextgrid wrote: post #44
samschooler wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Whats the problem with uBlock Origin as an extension? https://ublockorigin.com/

It's yet another thing to install & configure manually. For a browser that boasts about privacy at every possible opportunity I'd expect something as standard & essential (in this day and age) to be included.

So bother your distro to include it as a dependency? I much prefer a good third party solution than an included half baked one.

Re: Firefox 93

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Post by Spivak »

noteboom wrote: post #33
Spivak wrote: post #21

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Yeah how dare Mozilla force sites to pay for TLS certificates! It’s a racket I tell you! If they’re going to be required in order to be on the internet they should be free Mozilla: Okay, done.

Time is money, I'm sure some users visiting websites that don't have the luxury of being maintained by multinational corporations will experience issues as a result of this change. TLS certificates are also not trivial to set up or renew if you require a wildcard certificate.

Wildcard certificates are the much much easier case. You don't have to mess with your web server or routes at all. You just hook up certbot with your DNS provider and say "get me a cert for '*.mydomain.business", run the renew in a cronjob (which certbot does automatically by default now) and never touch it again. I've had certbot running for like 4 years with no interruption with this setup.

The Venn Diagram of people who forgo managed hosting with SSL built-in and set up their own servers to host HTML pages on the internet and the people capable of following a guide to configure certbot is a circle.

Re: Firefox 93

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Post by Lendal »

kongin wrote: post #43
BitwiseFool wrote: post #35

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>"hire a full development team that can hopefully catch up and overtake Chrome?" In an ideal world the best browser would win but marketshare doesn't work that way. Microsoft has full time development teams working on Edge and it is just barely chipping away at chrome's dominance. And, in no small part because they pester Windows users to make Edge the default at every opportunity.

Edge is a chrome skin. They don't have engineers working on a browser, they have engineers working on a _theme_.

Really? So every time you bring in a dependency on a library written by someone else, your software is just a theme or wrapper? I guess that's one way to look at it.

Re: Firefox 93

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Post by BitwiseFool »

kongin wrote: post #43
BitwiseFool wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>"hire a full development team that can hopefully catch up and overtake Chrome?" In an ideal world the best browser would win but marketshare doesn't work that way. Microsoft has full time development teams working on Edge and it is just barely chipping away at chrome's dominance. And, in no small part because they pester Windows users to make Edge the default at every opportunity.

Edge is a chrome skin. They don't have engineers working on a browser, they have engineers working on a _theme_.

Oh, if the GP meant Chromium the engine, rather than Chrome the browser, that changes things a bit.

Re: Firefox 93

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Post by teekert »

theandrewbailey wrote: post #28
teekert wrote: post #11

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Do you know when we can expect .heic?

If you mean the container format, AVIF uses it natively. If you mean the image format, probably never. It's based on the HEVC/H.265 licensing minefield. For that reason, I don't expect it to ever be supported on Chromium or Firefox based browsers.

Hmm, I have no issues viewing the files (iPhone pictures) on my Ubuntu desktop, are they that much braver?

Re: Firefox 93

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Post by kadoban »

JonathanBeuys wrote: post #49

I am currently trying Ubuntu for the first time in a long while and it comes with Firefox as the default browser. My problem is that Firefox has a "snapping" scroll behavior that I find very annoying. When I move my fingers on the touchpad of my laptop, that does not immediately move the page. Instead, it waits until I moved a certain distance and then moves in one big swoosh. Starting Firefox from the command line l…

You can just set that environment variable permanently, I believe usually in your ~/.profile file or one of those. Let me know if you need more info.

Re: Firefox 93

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Post by rocketbop »

kongin wrote: post #43
BitwiseFool wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>"hire a full development team that can hopefully catch up and overtake Chrome?" In an ideal world the best browser would win but marketshare doesn't work that way. Microsoft has full time development teams working on Edge and it is just barely chipping away at chrome's dominance. And, in no small part because they pester Windows users to make Edge the default at every opportunity.

Edge is a chrome skin. They don't have engineers working on a browser, they have engineers working on a _theme_.

That’s the case now but they had their own browser until 2018 backed by considerable resources and still had to put up the white flag.

Re: Firefox 93

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Post by dralley »

kongin wrote: post #43
BitwiseFool wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>"hire a full development team that can hopefully catch up and overtake Chrome?" In an ideal world the best browser would win but marketshare doesn't work that way. Microsoft has full time development teams working on Edge and it is just barely chipping away at chrome's dominance. And, in no small part because they pester Windows users to make Edge the default at every opportunity.

Edge is a chrome skin. They don't have engineers working on a browser, they have engineers working on a _theme_.

1. It doesn't really matter. Most users don't even know what a browser engine is much less care, so whether it's a fully independent browser or not is irrelevant to their adoption in the marketplace.

2. The story was no different even when they were still using Trident as their engine.

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