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>The rioters this week haven't shared the same determination Are you saying you'd have liked the rioters better if they didn't give up so "quickly"?
Misquoting to make your point is antithetical to honest debate. Flagged.
i don't agree with Cameron, but CNN's headline is a bit sensationalist. > "to look at whether it would be right to stop people communicating via these websites and services when we know they are plotting violence, disorder and criminality." he's not saying facebook and twitter should be banned, just that it should be monitored (and potentially block users). again, i disagree with Cameron, but its hardly the same as a…
During the Tunisian revolution, the police was ordered to leave a 1 million citizen city that I'm living in after a tough day where the ruling party locals where burnt. Although without any security (and before people gather and create groups for protection), the city was relatively stable.
There was theft, but theft existed before that day. Also there wasn't that kind of violence in the thefts that happened. When I went to the center of the city the day after that, I saw no signs that a private property was abused.
There are of course those who do not want us to speak. I suspect even now, orders are being shouted into telephones, and men with guns will soon be on their way. Why? Because while the truncheon may be used in lieu of conversation, words will always retain their power. Words offer the means to meaning, and for those who will listen, the enunciation of truth. And the truth is, there is something terribly wrong with th…
To us, Libya protesters are freedom fighters, to the Libian government they are criminals. No surprise that when the protests happen here, governments swap position right away.
definition for protester: "dissenter: a person who dissents from some established policy." definition for rioter: "troublemaker who participates in a violent disturbance of the peace; someone who rises up against the constituted authority."
It's sad how the British government is responding compared to Norway. Norway: First) Provides support to anyone who needs it. Problem) Mentally unstable bomber/shooter. Solution) We'll continue supporting. Security will get reviewed but not that necessary to implement new laws. Britain: First) Cut back support for bringing up people. Problem) Surprised people riot. Solution) Slam down authoritative fist. So far; 1) I…
To us, Libya protesters are freedom fighters, to the Libian government they are criminals. No surprise that when the protests happen here, governments swap position right away.
This is a slightly tired and broadly awful analogy. The rioters this week haven't shared the same motivations, determination or moral conviction of "rebel" (but now recognised) Libyan Government. If I were Libyan, this comparison would be frankly insulting.
If you have a good number of citizens that, when some instability happens, goes to the street and fire cars, houses and rub shops, you have a much more serious problem than 100million GBP in loses. During the Tunisian revolution, the police was ordered to leave a 1 million citizen city that I'm living in after a tough day where the ruling party locals where burnt. Although without any security (and before people gath…
However, I also believe that the riots in Tunisia weren't limited to lower class people, and maybe involving a larger section of society in them caused them to be more civilized.
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Twitter's a public medium, I don't really see how anyone could object to a government monitoring it, given any individual could do the same thing.
Twitter has both public and private messages. If anyone is taking about monitoring communications on it, I would assume they're talking about the private ones.
The tone of the debate was actually quite reasonable, and many MPs, including the PM, were vocal about the benefits of social media during this whole sorry affair.
Sadly, a lot of people are reading things into it that weren't actually said and then turning them into senationalist headlines on sites like this where the liberal crowd upvote them without bothering to check any facts.