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Cloudflare announced four major new features that could disrupt industries

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Re: Cloudflare announced four major new features that could disrupt industries

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"Cloudflare has announced their "Distributed Web Gateways" which should solve these problems. Developers will interact with HTTP calls, which CloudFlare will translate to PFS or Ethereum functions, while adding Cloudflare added-value services on the HTTP side."

CloudFlare is well on its way to becoming the western version of the Great Firewall of China. Centralizing All The Things.

Except instead of censorship, it'll be used to make sweet cash dollars.

Re: Cloudflare announced four major new features that could disrupt industries

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I think calling it clickbait is too harsh. The right headline would be: "Cloudflare announces 3 changes which have the potential to disrupt 3 industries in the near/long future". So it's somewhere in the middle between "totally describing what's inside" vs. clickbait-y.

> I think calling it clickbait is too harsh. The right headline would be: "Cloudflare announces 3 changes which have the potential to disrupt 3 industries in the near/long future". That's still quite the stretch. A pricing update to not charge egress fees for object storage and some types of streaming is hardly "disruptive", as is catering to the web3 buzzword. I like Cloudflare, but these marketing blurbs start to e…

> A pricing update to not charge egress fees for object storage and some types of streaming is hardly "disruptive"

Hum. Do you think the largest cloud providers can outcompete that without completely changing their business plans?

Egress costs are always described as the ultimate cloud moat, and the main way those companies lock their clients. I do think there is enough space to disagree here (personally, I have no idea), but the mainstream view is that it fits the (econ-)dictionary definition of disruptive.

Re: Cloudflare announced four major new features that could disrupt industries

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Cloudflare really is impressive. Who can forget when they disrupted the retro emulation scene, by protecting the website that drove a prominent emulation developer to suicide? Or when they disrupted Isla Vista by serving the sites where Elliot Rodger was radicalized?

Re: Cloudflare announced four major new features that could disrupt industries

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I know that Cloudflare is always very liked on HN and the CTO often comments here. I often refer to friends that Cloudflare only exists thanks to HN. But Cloudflare is not (neither HN) the center of the world you could have better than R2 with B2 before for example. And no they didnt disrupted anything. You dont disrupt anything in one week actually. Has R2 had any impact on S3 business model or customers so far ? Pr…

I think calling it clickbait is too harsh. The right headline would be: "Cloudflare announces 3 changes which have the potential to disrupt 3 industries in the near/long future". So it's somewhere in the middle between "totally describing what's inside" vs. clickbait-y.

Calling it clickbait is generous

Re: Cloudflare announced four major new features that could disrupt industries

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I honestly think it'll get flooded with bad actors and they'll be forced to set limits (e.g. download rate limits, which probably wouldn't be in their best interest since it'd occupy a connection for longer).

Cf has really mature trust and safety as well as security teams and tools. I've no doubt they've taken bad actors into account considering all of the other offerings they have that have also attracted bad actors.

No question. They've been dealing with that factor at hyper scale for many years now. The only question is how they've already decided to go about it.

They'll certainly want to make a big splash with the product, given the cloud giants they're taking on. That's better done with fewer limitations initially, even if they know ahead of time the various ways they'll restrict abuse over time.

Re: Cloudflare announced four major new features that could disrupt industries

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I see Cloudflare as part of the system of control of the internet. They can prevent sites from being seen or users from accessing the internet. I also suspect that their business model is the mafia protection racket - that they may run some of the bots that commit DDOS attacks - it would be in their business interests.

Why is this downvoted? I understand the second paragraph might be slightly aggressive/inflammatory but the first paragraph alone is a legitimate critique.

I would really appreciate if those who disagree would provide counter arguments, as both sides here offer the potential for an interesting (and important) dialogue about CF and their role in global Internet/WWW infrastructure.

Re: Cloudflare announced four major new features that could disrupt industries

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> I think calling it clickbait is too harsh. The right headline would be: "Cloudflare announces 3 changes which have the potential to disrupt 3 industries in the near/long future". That's still quite the stretch. A pricing update to not charge egress fees for object storage and some types of streaming is hardly "disruptive", as is catering to the web3 buzzword. I like Cloudflare, but these marketing blurbs start to e…

Note, the author isn't affiliated with Cloudflare. It's not a marketing blurb, this is how people actually talk in SV apparently ;)

Doubt there's an affiliation. The whole article is written from a perspective of how founders can use these features to build their MVPs faster (curious how nobody in the comments mentioned this).

Re: Cloudflare announced four major new features that could disrupt industries

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It's kinda astonishing to me that were fine with a third party company terminating end to end encryption between the service provider and the user. It just feels...so off to me that we've normalized this. Hopefully there will be new standards in the future. But for now this is slightly terrifying to me.

Cloudflare doesn't require terminating end to end encryption between the service provider and the user.
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