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Re: Cloudflare announced four major new features that could disrupt industries

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Post by tylerrobinson » Mon, Oct 04, 2021, 2:44 PM UTC

wackget wrote: post #5

The article's not entirely accurate. It says the storage bandwidth fees are "totally elimiated" but that's not true: > R2 will zero-rate infrequent storage operations under a threshold — currently planned to be in the single digit requests per second range. Above this range, R2 will charge significantly less per-operation than the major providers.

Indeed, the specific terms will be really interesting to watch. Even if the per-operation fees are high by comparison after that threshold, it could still result in a huge savings for big file downloads.

Re: Cloudflare announced four major new features that could disrupt industries

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Post by greatsaas12 » Mon, Oct 04, 2021, 2:47 PM UTC

leetrout wrote: post #10

Author if you are here you have a typo where you say web 2.0 instead of 3.0. Tried to comment on the article but I guess I need an invite to indie hackers and I don't know anyone :D

Looks like it was fixed.

Re: Cloudflare announced four major new features that could disrupt industries

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Post by dvh1990 » Mon, Oct 04, 2021, 2:51 PM UTC

There are special risks involved when relying on novel, market breaking features: Your offering will be dependent on that feature remaining available AND cost effective.

If the company ups the price or removes the feature altogether then you will be left without an edge.

Re: Cloudflare announced four major new features that could disrupt industries

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Post by polote » Mon, Oct 04, 2021, 2:56 PM UTC

I know that Cloudflare is always very liked on HN and the CTO often comments here. I often refer to friends that Cloudflare only exists thanks to HN. But Cloudflare is not (neither HN) the center of the world you could have better than R2 with B2 before for example.

And no they didnt disrupted anything. You dont disrupt anything in one week actually. Has R2 had any impact on S3 business model or customers so far ? Probably not.

Not saying Cloudflare is a bad company, I believe it is one of the few (maybe with Stripe) that is able to still work as a startup even though they have thousands of employees, which is quite impressive. But the article is clickbait

Re: Cloudflare announced four major new features that could disrupt industries

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Post by greatsaas12 » Mon, Oct 04, 2021, 2:58 PM UTC

polote wrote: post #14

I know that Cloudflare is always very liked on HN and the CTO often comments here. I often refer to friends that Cloudflare only exists thanks to HN. But Cloudflare is not (neither HN) the center of the world you could have better than R2 with B2 before for example. And no they didnt disrupted anything. You dont disrupt anything in one week actually. Has R2 had any impact on S3 business model or customers so far ? Pr…

I think calling it clickbait is too harsh. The right headline would be: "Cloudflare announces 3 changes which have the potential to disrupt 3 industries in the near/long future". So it's somewhere in the middle between "totally describing what's inside" vs. clickbait-y.

Re: Cloudflare announced four major new features that could disrupt industries

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Post by latchkey » Mon, Oct 04, 2021, 2:59 PM UTC

ethereum [sic]

Re: Cloudflare announced four major new features that could disrupt industries

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Post by yawnxyz » Mon, Oct 04, 2021, 3:00 PM UTC

moralestapia wrote: post #3

The big question I have regarding R2 (for those no in the lops: Cloudflare's alternative to S3 with no egress fees (!)) is if the terms hold if you choose to use it to host video. If yes, then wow, this truly is disruptive.

That's a good question, I wonder how that will play along with their Video Streaming service. I guess this wouldn't be hosted streaming, but a downloadable video file, so they'd have different use cases.

Re: Cloudflare announced four major new features that could disrupt industries

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Post by NicoJuicy » Mon, Oct 04, 2021, 3:03 PM UTC

polote wrote: post #14

I know that Cloudflare is always very liked on HN and the CTO often comments here. I often refer to friends that Cloudflare only exists thanks to HN. But Cloudflare is not (neither HN) the center of the world you could have better than R2 with B2 before for example. And no they didnt disrupted anything. You dont disrupt anything in one week actually. Has R2 had any impact on S3 business model or customers so far ? Pr…

You could say the same about Tesla.

But cloudflare is able to scale fast at least.

Re: Cloudflare announced four major new features that could disrupt industries

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Post by pixelgeek » Mon, Oct 04, 2021, 3:16 PM UTC

Cloudflare has offered the potential to disrupt several industries.

I actually thought that the distributed web workers was more interesting but that is just my focus.

Re: Cloudflare announced four major new features that could disrupt industries

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Post by mikevm » Mon, Oct 04, 2021, 3:16 PM UTC

jacobwg wrote: post #9

wackget wrote: post #5

The article's not entirely accurate. It says the storage bandwidth fees are "totally elimiated" but that's not true: > R2 will zero-rate infrequent storage operations under a threshold — currently planned to be in the single digit requests per second range. Above this range, R2 will charge significantly less per-operation than the major providers.

R2's final pricing isn't yet announced, but my understanding of the quoted section is that R2 will charge for storage operations (API calls), what S3 calls "Requests & data retrievals" on their pricing page [0]. But _egress_ (bandwidth) fees, which can be the most costly component of an S3 bill, are totally eliminated. S3 — Charges for amount of data resident on disk, amount of data retrieved, and each API call R2 —…

I can't wait to read the small print when it comes to actual egress bandwidth pricing. I can't believe it's going to actually cost zero dollars for all use-cases.