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Re: Google releases Games for Google+

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Post by mindcrime »

DanielRibeiro wrote: post #6

It would be nice to announce an open API as well. Hope it comes soon.

Yes, and - for one - really hope the eventual API builds on stuff they've already pushed in the past, and doesn't go in a whole new direction. I very much want to see OpenSocial, OAuth, GData / AtomPub, and existing open standards used for whatever they cook up. And given how much Google have put into these various standards in the past, it's what I expect... I just can't shake this sneaky fear that they're going to hit us with a big swerve and roll out a lot of new, incompatible stuff.

Re: Google releases Games for Google+

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Post by alecco »

yuvipanda wrote: post #22
alecco wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Mr. X adds me. Looks like a normal guy and G+ shows we have 2 contacts in common. So I add him. Then I get his spammy stream. The only way to verify is to go check their page before adding, but that's a hassle. So most people just add them. And while they keep the spam rate low and make it look OK most people just leave them. This happens in particular with users who visit G+ less frequently. This happened to me seve…

Do your due diligence. Don't add anyone you don't know. Or, if they 'seem' interesting, banish them to a dark circle that you visit perhaps once in a few weeks.

It was an example. I do not add them anymore. But I get constant notices of random spammers adding me. And these notices show up on every Google page, including normal searches. There is no way Google can tell Mr. X is a friend of a friend or a random social spammer.

Even if you do the right thing, you get those notices. And even if only some of your friends fall for it, it spreads. And I don't blame them, it's a hassle to check.

Edit: and of course, I am not publicly listed! But they can bypass that by adding friends who have their list of contacts public (a default!)

Re: Google releases Games for Google+

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Post by brown »

Khao wrote: post #3

I love how Google has really taken time to address the problem number 1 with Facebook games : they are spam machines! Games in Google+ will feel more like real games (pc, mobile or console games) as in if I feel like playing a game and I see my friend also plays that game, then we can share scores and stuff. But when I'm not feeling for games, then games don't invade my news feed. What would be the point anyway in kn…

> What would be the point anyway in knowing my friend had a high score in a game I wouldn't play? It's only spam.

Most of us hate this kind of stuff. I know I do. It's super annoying. Furthermore, as a game developer, it would kill me a little bit to "sell out" like that.

However, this is why Zynga is worth a bazillion dollars. They understand the power of "virals". Have you ever talked to a Zynga employee? "Virals virals virals". They are one of the few companies who really understand the power of converting social pressure into profit.

Re: Google releases Games for Google+

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Post by jsavimbi »

alecco wrote: post #16
munificent wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Anybody can friend you and it will be shown across all Google pages, even search. I've been friended by multiple online media sociopaths through my friends. I don't see how that leads to spam. Friendship isn't symmetric in G+. Media sociopaths can follow me all they want. If I don't follow them back, I don't see a word they write in my stream.

Mr. X adds me. Looks like a normal guy and G+ shows we have 2 contacts in common. So I add him. Then I get his spammy stream. The only way to verify is to go check their page before adding, but that's a hassle. So most people just add them. And while they keep the spam rate low and make it look OK most people just leave them. This happens in particular with users who visit G+ less frequently. This happened to me seve…

Downvotes, you say? Well, if you took a minute to learn how G+ works and how easy it is to avoid annoyances, then you wouldn't be posting hypothetical and very misguided complaints about your "friends'" accounts in regards to interaction on G+.

Re: Google releases Games for Google+

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Post by dwc »

Khao wrote: post #11
dwc wrote: post #9

"When you’re ready to play, the Games page is waiting—click the games button at the top of your stream." I keep looking, and it keeps not being there.

As with everything Google does, it's slowly being rolled out. You will eventually see it appear soon!

Thanks. Just for kicks I guessed at the URL /games and was rewarded with a page beginning, "We're glad you want to play games on Google+. Don't worry, your turn is coming up!" and then saying basically what you said.

Re: Google releases Games for Google+

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Post by alecco »

humbledrone wrote: post #25
alecco wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Mr. X adds me. Looks like a normal guy and G+ shows we have 2 contacts in common. So I add him. Then I get his spammy stream. The only way to verify is to go check their page before adding, but that's a hassle. So most people just add them. And while they keep the spam rate low and make it look OK most people just leave them. This happens in particular with users who visit G+ less frequently. This happened to me seve…

> So I add him. There's your problem. Why on Earth are you adding people that you don't know at all? I'd like to see you back up your "So most people just add them" statement with hard evidence. I for one, do not "just add" people just because they circled me. I first check to see if they are someone I care about at all.

I am not. Please read, please be a bit more civil. Also, I clarified further on other replies. Thank you.

Re: Google releases Games for Google+

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Post by ctide »

alecco wrote: post #16
munificent wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Anybody can friend you and it will be shown across all Google pages, even search. I've been friended by multiple online media sociopaths through my friends. I don't see how that leads to spam. Friendship isn't symmetric in G+. Media sociopaths can follow me all they want. If I don't follow them back, I don't see a word they write in my stream.

Mr. X adds me. Looks like a normal guy and G+ shows we have 2 contacts in common. So I add him. Then I get his spammy stream. The only way to verify is to go check their page before adding, but that's a hassle. So most people just add them. And while they keep the spam rate low and make it look OK most people just leave them. This happens in particular with users who visit G+ less frequently. This happened to me seve…

Do you auto follow every spambot that follows you on twitter?

Re: Google releases Games for Google+

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Post by doctoboggan »

timwiseman wrote: post #29
Khao wrote: post #3

I love how Google has really taken time to address the problem number 1 with Facebook games : they are spam machines! Games in Google+ will feel more like real games (pc, mobile or console games) as in if I feel like playing a game and I see my friend also plays that game, then we can share scores and stuff. But when I'm not feeling for games, then games don't invade my news feed. What would be the point anyway in kn…

It looks promising. Now, will it offer a way to play Go?

As long as they offer a REPL I'd be happy

Re: Google releases Games for Google+

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Post by andypants »

yuvipanda wrote: post #33
int3rnaut wrote: post #26

I'm still in the dark here so I can't check, but will Games for Google+ be using the same business models as most facebook games?

I take it you mean Ads? I'm not sure 'Facebook Credits' got much traction

FB credits must have gotten some traction, because facebook games are only allowed to use facebook credits as premium currency...
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