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> You must be making investment decisions without looking at any corporate documents. Well, I've never actually invested in any company before. Mostly because of stuff like this. I always assumed there's some insider information I'm missing out on.
As a start, every publicly traded company in the US publishes an annual and quarterly report that is available to anyone for free. Those generally have quite a bit of information about what's going on with the company, its structure, financial situation, management, etc. Searching for `$COMPANY_NAME annual report` is a good start
Facebook whistleblower says she wants to fix company, not harm it
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Re: Facebook whistleblower says she wants to fix company, not harm it
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The big question, of course, is not whether media--mainstream or social--have ever "gotten it wrong", but what steps we can take to make them better. The mainstream media very much got it wrong on Iraq. I agree with you. Yet the reality is more complex than your anti-elitist tirade suggests. It's inconceivable to me that a well-functioning democracy can exist without trustworthy--and trusted--institutions who (yes) h…
It's easy. They have to hold themselves accountable for their own (weekly?) mistakes. People would trust them again (imo) if they called themselves out and proactively fixed their mistakes.
The glib answer is, "They publish corrections." Which many do.
But I don't think that addresses the (valid) criticism about the Iraq invasion: while there were some errors of fact, there were primarily errors of omission, where the media were too willing to act as uncritical stenographers for politicians' claims.
We see, in a way, the same phenomenon in the Trump era: whatever lunatic allegation Trump or his acolytes would make, the media felt the need to cover it; after all, whatever the President says is inherently news, no matter how crazy.
Yet in both of these examples, the problem isn't that the media represent some sort of powerful cabal, which I think was what the OP implied: it's that the media are too spineless to truly hold to account those in power (in both cases, the President of the US). Viewed that way, the premise of the original question is incongruous: it's deeply strange to criticize only the "Princeton and Columbia"-educated "media elites" who too-uncritically reported on the claims of the President, and not the Yale- and Harvard-educated President (and son of a President)--or the billionaire heir to a fortune President who came later--who uttered those false claims.
The media absolutely deserve to be criticized for their uncritical reporting before the invasion of Iraq, as I said before, but the original criticism sounded like we want a weaker media who will be less able to question false narratives espoused by powerful players. And I think if you look at these stories more closely, you'll realize we want the opposite.
Re: Facebook whistleblower says she wants to fix company, not harm it
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By the Matt Levine definition of securities fraud, they seem to be I trouble: - say one thing in public - know in private the thing is false - have that result in a lower stock price -> securities fraud
Not necessarily a straightforward connection, as none of the items being discussed have a direct revenue impact only indirect impact to brand value etc. Knowing it is unhealthy for teenagers does not have direct negative impact on advertising revenues per se . It is perhaps feasible to argue that keeping this information under wraps without a legal requirement to disclose is the optimum management fiduciary thing to…
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There is no evidence that the media was part of the conspiracy, they just parroted the talking points and a few media outlets did heavily question the rationale.. the fact is both wars were hugely popular when they started so few listened. This is not even close to a comparable situation to the social medial platforms, these platforms and democratized and weaponized mis-information. But it not just them, the ad-funde…
> the fact is both wars were hugely popular when they started That was the case in Afghanistan, but not in Iraq. There were significant protests against the planned invasion.
Gallup polling shows 50-60% of Americans supported going in just to remove Hussein, in the first half of 2003 only 23-27% of Americans thought it was a mistake to go in to Iraq. see here for tons of polls done https://news.gallup.com/poll/1633/iraq.aspx
Despite seemingly everyone's revisionist histories, the country was scared and generally whipped into a frenzy, the right wanted it, the centrists wanted it, some of the left wanted it.
Re: Facebook whistleblower says she wants to fix company, not harm it
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Facebook was actually pretty good when it just showed me my friends posts and nothing else. But when they moved to their 'timeline' and started fiddling with algorithms that try to decide what I want to see, they got it all wrong and it became a chore to wade through it all. I don't understand how they think an algorithm can decide better what I want to see than me myself (by adding friend and blocking the ones that…
> they think an algorithm can decide better what I want to see than me myself I agree with your points, except I believe there is a limited role for algorithms that help users discover new things they might like but not know about. I prefer Spotify's approach, where there's a specific area of the app (a "Discover Weekly" playlist) that gets refreshed but not so often that it becomes a dopamine lever. Although that ki…
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In fact, it is perfectly legal in most of US. It is on paper illegal in California, but I haven’t seen this law actually being enforced.
Just because you don’t see it, doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen. I have a relative who processes digital intakes for a CA ACLU chapter, and they get a huge number of interview-related complaints, which get referred directly to legal assistance who are interested in such cases. My opinion is we likely don’t hear about it because each case is small, and companies have no incentive to publicize settlements.
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You're talking about a small group of Oath Keepers in an otherwise peaceful protest. But I'm curious, why do you think Stewart Rhodes was never arrested? Would it make more sense given the context that the boogaloos behind the Whitmer kidnapping plot turned out to be FBI agents, as did the leaders of other right-wing groups including the Proud Boys and Atomwaffen Division? Who does the right-wing terrorism scare serv…
Right-wing terrorism scare? We all watched angry mobs attempt to disrupt the peaceful transition of power on live TV. These are the same people who proudly fly the flag of literal traitors to our country and call the press the “enemy of the free state.” If all it takes for your movement to attempt to kidnap elected officials or disrupt transfer of power is a few undercover agents nudging along, your movement is a hug…
>call the press the “enemy of the free state.”
Criticism of media is terrorism?
>kidnap elected officials
That group was comprised almost entirely of undercover agents along with a couple of mentally ill people. The FBI orchestrated the entire thing.
>disrupt transfer of power
Again, a valid target for protest.
Re: Facebook whistleblower says she wants to fix company, not harm it
#519She's no whistleblower. She wants Facebook to engage in more spying, censorship and control.
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Right-wing terrorism scare? We all watched angry mobs attempt to disrupt the peaceful transition of power on live TV. These are the same people who proudly fly the flag of literal traitors to our country and call the press the “enemy of the free state.” If all it takes for your movement to attempt to kidnap elected officials or disrupt transfer of power is a few undercover agents nudging along, your movement is a hug…
We all watched protesters demonstrate in a public building, and yes, disrupt the transition of power. Peaceful disruption of the government is the quintessential act of protest. >call the press the “enemy of the free state.” Criticism of media is terrorism? >kidnap elected officials That group was comprised almost entirely of undercover agents along with a couple of mentally ill people. The FBI orchestrated the entir…
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