The upvote / downvote system is at fault here too, at least with online discussion forums. Everything that doesn’t match the local culture and norms is immediately downvoted. It’s a self-reinforcing echo chamber. Reddit is notoriously bad at this. I preferred the old forum style, where even unpopular or strange messages were still placed in chronological order.
The reputation economy is turning us into conformists (2017) [video]
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#12I'm sure the presenter doesn't necessarily share the Congress's values, but it's funny nonetheless.
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#13Was social media ever really anything but an echo chamber that sought to recreate the mob mentality of collective lynching for dissenting voices? I mean cancel culture and wokeness have made it clear that seems like the means and methods to create (coerced) consensus amongst an incredibly vocal minority. I'm less troubled with conformity, many Societies throughout the World have made that a part of the Social Contrac…
Societies with reputation economics (aka face) as the main factor, are incredibly wasteful on human resources, bad at crisis management and generally worser at innovating. Let the initial management of the Covid crisis here be a example. Its one of the established bonus points, that cultures whos mythology in indoctrination praises martyrs (e.g. Jews, Shiites, Christians) prepares its members to stand out even agains…
But every year changed may be as well. For example the November-revolution in Russia. There are numerous examples that change was for the worse, especially for the masses.
And the Chinese or Roman empires outperformed any other quickly changing empire by far.
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#15Pretty rich, coming out of an organization that assaulted and chased Vincent Canfield out of CCC for . . . . owning trollish domain names. I'm sure the presenter doesn't necessarily share the Congress's values, but it's funny nonetheless.
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#16We've always been followers and joiners. Look back 1000 years, we talked to very few people and our sphere of influence was small. Look at the changes the printing press had, influence could be cheaply disseminated. The newspapers took an out sized role and increased our sphere of influence. Today, with social media, our sphere is the entire world. It isn't curated (well, except to favor things that will cause outrag…
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#17Was social media ever really anything but an echo chamber that sought to recreate the mob mentality of collective lynching for dissenting voices? I mean cancel culture and wokeness have made it clear that seems like the means and methods to create (coerced) consensus amongst an incredibly vocal minority. I'm less troubled with conformity, many Societies throughout the World have made that a part of the Social Contrac…
You make it sound like this only happens on the democratic side. Republicans have similar echo chambers. I think conformity happens within circles. Then it's a question how big the circle is. I agree with your main concern though, online vs real life credit systems.
It's getting harder to remember life before the internet, but it was largely similar. Different pockets of people had different beliefs and tended to choose an echo chamber.
As you said, the circles are bigger now.
The other difference is that media is so less centralized now, the circles are further apart. The centralized main stream media applied a certain amount of social pressure itself that sort of kept the circles from straying to far into "forbidden thoughts". This has largely been destroyed by the internet.
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#18Social media has massively amplified the penalty for making a mistake or offhand remark. People used to make tasteless jokes all the time and it was treated as it was, just a joke and life continued. Now anything out of the pale that catches the attention of some sort of influencer spells doom. Anyone caught at a bad moment on camera is pilloried, made out to be the anti christ and have people actively seeking out th…
Let's not pretend this is new: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hollywood_blacklist
The difference now is that visibility is more uniformly distributed across the population.
Re: The reputation economy is turning us into conformists (2017) [video]
#19Social media has massively amplified the penalty for making a mistake or offhand remark. People used to make tasteless jokes all the time and it was treated as it was, just a joke and life continued. Now anything out of the pale that catches the attention of some sort of influencer spells doom. Anyone caught at a bad moment on camera is pilloried, made out to be the anti christ and have people actively seeking out th…
Re: The reputation economy is turning us into conformists (2017) [video]
#20Pretty rich, coming out of an organization that assaulted and chased Vincent Canfield out of CCC for . . . . owning trollish domain names. I'm sure the presenter doesn't necessarily share the Congress's values, but it's funny nonetheless.
Bonus Point: The CrewCrew (Congress Security) is a barely documented all-female "security" gang. Men are not allowed to join. There are rumors that the President of the CCC controls it directly. Questions of accountability are still not answered.