This is all too confusing to me. Why isn't there a mandatory (or reference) specification string that combines all the necessary, useful information in one neat package instead of countless repetitive and easily misunderstood logos? Something like (just a basic, messy example) USB-C/ / / / / /etc. I had to buy some cables recently and really couldn't pick one nor distinguish particular features at glance, and the ite…
What's confusing about "USB C to Lightning Cable MFI Certified iPhone Cable Fast iPhone Charger Cable 20W PD 3/6/10FT Type C Charging & Syncing Data Compatible iPhone 12 Pro Max Mini 11 X XR XS 8 P iPad iPod (White)"?
New USB-C logos make picking USB cables, chargers less confusing
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Re: New USB-C logos make picking USB cables, chargers less confusing
#182Earlier quoted context omitted.
Apple only sell 1 USB-C cable officially though, and it's listed as being charge-only- I know we all see Apple cables around, but at least they only have 1 and if it differs its marked; for example they also sell a "Thunderbolt" cable, but it's marked. https://www.apple.com/ae/shop/product/MLL82ZM/A/usb-c-charge... https://www.apple.com/ae/shop/product/MQ4H2ZM/A/thunderbolt-...
Where do you get the idea that this cable is charge-only?
Re: New USB-C logos make picking USB cables, chargers less confusing
#183Earlier quoted context omitted.
Where do you get the idea that this cable is charge-only?
Because it’s called that by Apple- the first link has a title of: “USB-C Charge cable (2m)”
Re: New USB-C logos make picking USB cables, chargers less confusing
#184I hate it how we went from simple, to simpler to totally complicated regarding computer ports. "Back in the days", it was a bunch of different ports of different sizes and shapes, and each thing had its own cable that fit into that thing only, and into only port only on the back of the pc. Yes, you needed 20 cables, but things were simple. Then came the USB... one cable, one protocol for all.... except video (firewir…
(In part I propose this to validate whether this is the correct mental model for what a cable is and what it is expected to do.)
Re: New USB-C logos make picking USB cables, chargers less confusing
#185I hate it how we went from simple, to simpler to totally complicated regarding computer ports. "Back in the days", it was a bunch of different ports of different sizes and shapes, and each thing had its own cable that fit into that thing only, and into only port only on the back of the pc. Yes, you needed 20 cables, but things were simple. Then came the USB... one cable, one protocol for all.... except video (firewir…
>You need a PD charger and not a QC charger...
Impossible, all USB-C QC chargers are also USB PD chargers.
>into the correct usb port to charge the laptop
The port is either marked (everything but MacBooks) or doesn't matter (MacBooks, pretty sweet).
>buy an original charger for your laptop
Good! Now you have a USB PD charger that covers your laptop and also every device you own that's lighter in wattage. Less chargers to pack when travelling :)
>you're back at where we were 20 years ago
No, not at all. 20 to 10 years ago all charging ports (including on cameras, phones, everything) were barrel plugs of slightly different diameter; everybody's cranking out their own boxy black chargers putting out maddening variations on the same ~20V for laptops and 3-5V for smaller devices, you can't share chargers between devices, can't always find the replacement, especially if the device is on the older side. Buying a device with a different connector - bam, old charger goes to e-waste (or e-bay).
>but it won't charge. You need a fast charger...
EU makes it mandatory to say on the packaging what wattage the device needs, and what wattage the chager can provide. Granted, the laptops are not covered by the EU proposition in question yet, but have patience, we don't now have those 240W chargers for nothing :)
Re: New USB-C logos make picking USB cables, chargers less confusing
#186Earlier quoted context omitted.
What's confusing about "USB C to Lightning Cable MFI Certified iPhone Cable Fast iPhone Charger Cable 20W PD 3/6/10FT Type C Charging & Syncing Data Compatible iPhone 12 Pro Max Mini 11 X XR XS 8 P iPad iPod (White)"?
That isn't a USB problem, that's an Amazon problem.
No thanks.
Re: New USB-C logos make picking USB cables, chargers less confusing
#187I hate it how we went from simple, to simpler to totally complicated regarding computer ports. "Back in the days", it was a bunch of different ports of different sizes and shapes, and each thing had its own cable that fit into that thing only, and into only port only on the back of the pc. Yes, you needed 20 cables, but things were simple. Then came the USB... one cable, one protocol for all.... except video (firewir…
"Back in the days" you would either buy an original charger, which the store probably wouldn't have in stock, or buy one of those universal charger with a dozen plugs in which case you would have to be careful to pick a powerful enough charger anyway. You would also have to be very careful to pick a charger with the correct voltage.
Re: New USB-C logos make picking USB cables, chargers less confusing
#188https://www.theverge.com/circuitbreaker/2019/2/27/18243425/u...
Re: New USB-C logos make picking USB cables, chargers less confusing
#189Earlier quoted context omitted.
It was never that simple. Your serial cables had peripheral or null-modem (I have a serial cable marked "MIDI" I have no idea what is different). Parallel port cables could be SCSI cables instead. Some cables didn't have all pins wired to save money. With PS/2 ports you had to get the mouse and keyboard the right way around despite having the same port.
It got pretty simple for a while when old serial & parallel ports were phased out in favor of USB. Also VGA worked for a very long time even after DVI and HDMI appeared on the scene. (I never had as much trouble with connecting displays as I do today)
Re: New USB-C logos make picking USB cables, chargers less confusing
#190I hate it how we went from simple, to simpler to totally complicated regarding computer ports. "Back in the days", it was a bunch of different ports of different sizes and shapes, and each thing had its own cable that fit into that thing only, and into only port only on the back of the pc. Yes, you needed 20 cables, but things were simple. Then came the USB... one cable, one protocol for all.... except video (firewir…
There's a lot of doom and gloom here; let's see if it really got that bad. >You need a PD charger and not a QC charger... Impossible, all USB-C QC chargers are also USB PD chargers. >into the correct usb port to charge the laptop The port is either marked (everything but MacBooks) or doesn't matter (MacBooks, pretty sweet). >buy an original charger for your laptop Good! Now you have a USB PD charger that covers your…
Some of them had the same diameter, so accidentally plugging 12V to 5V port could fry your device.